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Gf, sorry couldn't make it. Whats with tdmwl's mass these days?

Ah, so i have to go find the evidence that you want for you... not very credible is it. So, i guess that puts an end on the multiclanning issue since you don't seem to have any evidence in the first place.

Give me names, screens, proof, talk is cheap. For the record, lgz has been massing an average of 60 men every Saturday war, so no, we didn't just add people. And I just said, TWR has no issue with multiclanners, there are TEAMS that are permitted to war in TWR, do you understand or am i speaking gibberish? Such as Team Fear. 1 more note, why do i keep seeing 'you weren't there so shut it.' Are you afraid of what people have to say? This is a public forum for war-enthusiasts, it doesn't matter if you were there or not, as long as you aren't talking senselessness. The TWR Mods weren't there, why don't you tell them off too while your at it?

That doesn't make multiclanning not allowed in TWR, and this war was a TWR ranked war. Also, I'd like to see our 'multiclanners' that were at the war in the first place, talk is cheap.

rofl, as far as multiclanning is concerned, you do realize your in the wrong group if you are concerned about that since there are TEAMS allowed to war in TWR. Don't act ignorant and make a fool of yourself and your clan.

Unavoidable? I don't think you understand what unavoidable means dude. As for flames sent by df, we had someone come at our forums' shoutbox and was flaming. As for you being lenient to rm, if we put your thinking into play, we shouldn't of been lenient to wait 45 minutes to war? But thats not how we do things, or any warring clan. We waited for a war, too bad it didn't happen. Do you realize an rm on the spot could of easily solved this, yet you were too 'tired' to do that, and prefer forum posts instead.

From here, we are just going in circles... - Planning 2 wars on the same day doesn't justify you being late since you accepted it in the first place, which inherently makes you responsible enough to make it on time. - As stated by Steeny, minor rules such as lgz attacking first doesn't justify you walking out. And even if you walked out, you were offered an rm with these minor rules re-enforced, you still didn't accept. - "Any rule broken will result in an automatic DQ". If that were taken literally then majority of wars will be nulled or would have disputes, since there is likely to be flaming/flame baiting between both sides. And in this specific case, there was. Would that make it null? No, there is something called leniency, as I stated earlier, such that minor rules can be bent to an extent. And it goes back to my point, we were lenient with your late coming. Because we wanted a war, we don't simply walk out and say 'DQed'.

So... your too tired to explain why 'the time shouldn't even be considered', you were also too tired to rm on the spot. When are you not tired?

Oh, so sticking 2 wars on the same day, fully accept the time and day of the war 2 weeks prior. Give no notice of being late anytime prior the war time FULLY justifies being late? rofl. Your leads chose the date and time, they accepted it, wouldn't that mean they will be on time? The war was planned TWO WEEKS before, how can it NOT be avoidable. You can simply say a day before the war, you aren't comfortable with the war time. You chose the time, and now you say its unavoidable to be late? So let me get this straight, you planned being late? This keeps getting more interesting...

Goes back to my posts: leniency. If lgz acted the way df did, we would of simply spammed 'DQed' when you came 45 minutes late. But we didn't, in fact, we warred, and were lenient for you to bend the minor time rule, even though it cost us 6 men. Yet when we warred you , you didn't offer that sort of leniency. And when we asked for a rematch, you didn't offer that sort of leniency. Indeed it is our fault for being lenient and considerate for your lateness, it is a tad shame you didn't offer the same. Nonetheless its evident which clan came to war and which one came for the points.

Hmm, if you took some time to read the first post instead of talking blindly you might just of avoided your situation.. We had 70 men at the scheduled time, your elite time skills led to some of our guys losing patience, so after 45 minutes we dropped to 64. Oi? You disagreed with 'minor' rules earlier, and now you agree. I find it funny that you label your 45 minutes late issue a minor problem. But when we make an issue you make it a big problem.

If the way you are thinking is put into play, then this war is null since both clans exchanged flames? You were also 45 minutes late, this happened before the flames, so shouldn't you be 'DQed'? But of course, that happens in full outs, your always gonna have a few bad apples or a bad time, does that mean the whole war is off. No, there is leniency towards such things unless they go out of hand or are done intentionally by the entire clan. This leniency was what we had done when we saw you were still in a war with HP. So technically from your perspective you are already 'DQed' even before the war since you came 45 minutes late from the scheduled time. Yet again, I hit at my main point, we are a warring clan, note the word war. And not 'that rule is broken, war is off!'. There still remains 1 question unanswered, even after both sides broke rules, LGZ still requested a rematch, not afraid of a few mishaps, we still wanted a real war... Its too bad our requests were unanswered. So why didn't you rematch right there on the spot instead of having a forum post contest? Assuming that the same was going to happen in a rematch is certainly NOT a good response, because we can simply just assume many things too.

You seem to miss the point. TWR is about wars, minor rules such as first to attack, flames, etc. are fully acceptable in close matched opt wars (or in the flaming case, if the entire clan is doing it). But this is a full out, 64-48 man war. So would you say, if a df recruit flamed lgz right before the war, would that make the ENTIRE war over and lgz wins? It comes back to what i just said 2 lines ago. TWR is about WARS. Minor rules broken doesn't nullify the entire war because it takes TIME and EFFORT to schedule full outs. And the whole point of the war is to essentially see which clan supersedes the other at that time. And if it need be done, a rematch should be done. In this case, you clearly left the war and refused to rematch with the MINOR rules re-enforced. Does that really make you the clan that supersedes the other? Or one that is looking for an excuse to win on the charts.

So, we have to say 'Don't be 45 minutes late' next time when declaring a war? Hmm, also throw in, 'Don't forget common sense to the war'. Its clear, even after the first match, they refused to rematch. I don't know about any other clans here, but TWR has been about warring clans, and whether your gonna teeter about 1 minute late or 1 bind thrown, lets get real here, WOULD that REALLY affect the match SO MUCH to give you the edge of winning the war? Obviously df leaving and refusing to rm, means they didn't really come to war but came to evade the war and get an excuse to win. Lgz stayed 45 minutes to war df, df sees a bind and they leave. Kinda defeats the purpose of the word WAR in TWR? I'd understand if this was a close matched opt war, but lets get real here, this is the 2nd time we war, and its the 2nd time you are defeated.

All LGZ please refrain from posting. If theres anything you need to say, pm jc about it. Look at it however you want, but a 70 man pull to a 50 man pull. Its pretty clear who will win be it df/lgz attacks first. NOT because df lacks in warring power, but simply because of the math, you'd need to outlevel by more than 8 cb lvls to take the win tbh. Respect to df for massing half their ml. :thumbup:

Wow, relax there? Gf rt, didn't expect you guys to pull that much, superb job.

hmm, heard you guys mass recruited just before the war. Congrats on the win anyway, 3x is a solid clan.

I see what wg is coming at, 'no rsc posting' seems to be generalized by some clans that it means 'no rsc/anything similar posting'. Though I partly agree with wg, you still have to remember, nowadays clans war just to have the honor of posting about it the next day.

How was this a raw war when it was done in cwa? Congrats on your win though, fab. ending results.

lol, you seriously gotta know when to use funny images to describe a war and when not to :lol: Oh and don't overdo it. Congrats on your win :D

Found at: viewtopic.php?f=189&t=782657

Rumors of a 'new' and improved lk got us wondering, and then it came. Lk reDeclares on us for an rm, after their long awaited vengeance of their loss in their first war against us. Though i was unable to attend, from our members' views this war seemed to be one of the best and funnest wars we've had in a long time, in terms of both sides' strengths. Lk had out leveled lgz from the very start, yet our organization proved worthy here... lzR_7vNzuDA WAR RESULTS Round 1/2 lgz starting: 51 lk starting: 45 lgz ending: 23 lk ending: 0 Round 2/2 lgz starting: 46 lk starting: 47 lgz ending: 7 lk ending: 0 Gf

Eh? lol, sorry misunderstood #-o

:| okay, dono where you got that '1 loss', but just a heads up, this isn't w141.

No we do full outs. We just find it more challenging to have an even playing field with an opponent. Also you need to remember TKO Blitz goes up against clans with 2 sometimes even 3 times their memberlist, so you should take that into consideration. But you usually out level the clan? 2/3 people against 1 person doesn't mean the 2/3 people have any advantage if they are much lower lvled.