JackleKrawl

Alright, everything is confirmed about everyone here's personalities. I've thrown in my bit, and theres no reason to get worked up about it. People will see this, and those few with insight into cause and effect will know what would happen if so many people had the same level of maturity as the people on this thread. I'll do you a favor, however. If I EVER see one of you spamming the place up, I will report you. Unorclan, you just don't get it. You see things, but you don't understand. Happy spamming buds...

Yeah I was right, theres no getting through. You're right - I've said the same things over and over. You're dumb - Why? Because you're hearing and not understanding - spamming up the place won't get you what you want. And with this, I'm out of here ^^ You people haven't made a single good point, and since the time I spent in trying to talk sense is just going to be spammed up with another 100 pages, theres no real reason in attempting. You should know where the 45 comes from. I'm going to answer one last thing. The people who can't afford to chip in 5-6 dollars or so for a game probably have things to be doing. Work, helping out, you name it - For sure they aren't playing RS. The only reason Communism came up is because you are thinking along the lines of 'Well if they can't afford it, we should give it to them.' Communism is a harsh system, I'm not saying its free stuff for everyone, but often in Communist countries, products are of a lower quality because most everyone is paid the same. Edit: When you beg from your parents a week straight one thing after another, do you get what you want? Or do you get punished?

Yeah good job prankster, besides making an even bigger fool of yourself, whether or not others will recognize you for a complete idiot, you have succeeded in misunderstanding again. Look at your snapshots fool. You have the chat names blurred out, but you have forgotten to blur out the names of those on your friends list. NOT THE ONES WHO WANT TO BE SHOWN. THE NAME OF THE PERSON, TIM 53 W/E ON YOUR FRIENDS LIST. Edit: More things to back me up? A player moderator, probably one of the few that I will ever respect, most likely due to the situation, agrees in the snapshot. He, like me, is FOR bank space, but finds your approach immature. Maybe this fool will catch on with me saying he didn't edit his picture correctly now. Time will tell :thumbsup: Face it, your ideas on spamming up banks everywhere isn't going to do F2P much of a favor. Continue far enough, and what will happen? Jagex gets punished by hundreds of people logging on at the same time and giving them money? Or F2P having to suffer from looking at fools spam up the place. Or maybe Jagex will take yet another approach, as F2P and P2P so suffered with Rune Essence Autoers.

Actually, this place isn't worth my time. You people are just obsessed with the idea of having every item available in your bank. But while we're at it, lets do some even more basic math 45+12=57 So here I am, while you claim I am a troll, and I'm still a higher class than any of you here. And while I'm at it, I'll make another point. Someone who can't afford to pay 27 cents a day so that they can have a few hundred more bank slots and all the benefits RS has, probably wouldn't be playing RS anyway. Face it, your arguments are invalid, your entire existences are invalid, half of you can't quote correctly, and I keep seeing the same people replying. Scorp, congratulations, you completely missed my point. On a friends list, the first person to sign off is at the top of the red list of friends. CONGRATULATIONS BUDDY! Edit ---- Actually, you know what? I have confused myself since from the start I was on the defensive. Why? Because I felt cornered and didn't realize from the start most of the people hanging around would be those supporting this. This is what I really feel - I am not against F2P bank space, I am against your approach. I find it immature that as you claim, that AT LEAST 500 people go around spamming the place up. You may say things like "It isn't spamming because of the scale of text relative to the amount of people participating." Regardless of whether or not it is true, that it is not a high amount relative to the amount of people participating, it is UNNECESSARY and will only get monitored by Jagex once people start reporting. It does not concern me whether or not mods support you. I have never been a big fan of moderators. Do not misunderstand me, if you could find an effective way to get bank space, I would be all for it. But if you have been doing this for over 10 months, then frankly...It isn't working, and all it does is generate annoyances.

Like I said, I expect to get flamed. I don't honestly CARE if I get flamed, but here. I'll give you my reasoning, and I'll criticize yours. Firstly lets start off with (skillers, pkers, merchants) Yeah, only three types of people. Brilliant, and it took ten months to come to that conclusion. So the official base of useless whining is at Tip.It and there are only 500 real supporters that are dumb enough to come to the conclusion that F2P isn't an introduction to Runescape. Mmk...Whether you guys like it or not, the reason many people think of it as a demo, is to simplify it. F2P was created so that might get addicted thinking along the lines of 'its free' o_O Naturally, later on many people buy membership. So the system works, imo. Now a peek into the brilliancy of scorp. Rofl. Ok, so he blurrs out the chat, and forgets to cover the friends list. So know that the chief whiner who only collected 500 people who really cared doesn't understand how to correctly edit pictures. Maybe I'll ask Mr.Player Moderator Tim 543 to take a peek. ^^ Or the rest of the Player Mods unsuccessfully blurred out. I'll take this time to reply to PenguinGeek 3 Actually, I was and am speaking correctly. Dude = Interjection Guys = Plural Congratulations, you got one right. Yes, "Dude" can be used as a noun, but it can be used as an interjection. Yes, I swore out of frustration. To reply to Id_Suge Yeah so those people who can't afford to play 5-6 dollars are going to have internet, electricity, a computer at least good enough to play this game, as well as the time to. I believe Jagex averaged it out on a day, and its .27 cents? Brilliant Suge, I'm proud of your latin though. Maybe you'll be so lucky as to become a lawyer later on in life. While we're at it, lets start supporting a Runescape Donation Center or maybe better yet, a Communist government spreading from Britain to the rest of the world. To reply to Killerred Forgive me for triple posting, I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings. Yeah a well constructed thread on a fan site. Sure big guy, sure. Why not get a P2P member like you fools claim to have so many of to post on the Runescape forums? You all have one track minds, I'm sure you could work something out...Also, if you had 500 members, and went on all these different worlds and, even if it was over 10 seconds, it would still be useless spam. Have a nice day, I've thrown in my bit. If this doesn't get through to you, then frankly theres no one to help - Theres no need to have all F2P items in your bank, 57 items is a lot when you come to think of it. Edit: Oh yes, this part rather tickled me ZOMG! F2P CAN NO LONGER LIVES WITHOUT BANK SPACE!!

Z0MG! I N33D 12 M0R3 B4NK SP4C3S T0 ST0R3 19 R4ND0M 1T3MZ! --- Uh, wow. No matter what you do for f2p, they're going to want more. I got 3 posts deleted because I said that they were [developmentally delayed]ed for wanting to store all random event items, all kinds of ore, fish, and have about 30 weapons in their bank. I mean theres no point, the only reason you would "need" bank space would be if you were an ex-member. And I am a part of F2P, theres no reason to hand bank space out like candy.

Yeah thats one organized bank, tard T_T I'm not saying I'm against FR33 STYFF, but you guys are totally immature. You're asking for a benefit membership gives you. Z0MG! I C4N'T ST0RE FULL M1M3, FULL Z0MB1E, 172 CH1Z3LZ!. So was I right? You go spam up places until you get reported and z0mfgbanzed? Yeah you're going to pay 6 dollars a month for only bank space. Brilliant.

Oh yes, and a year ago, I'd say get rid of autoers too. Then Jagex decided to 'crack down on the low percentage of z0mghax0rz' which woke me up and made me realize, that most of the game's problems really isn't the z0mghax0rz faults.

Jagex can run around in circles trying to chase autoers with decreasing market value. They proved that with Pure Essence. By screwing runecraft over 3 times, they can shift autoers from essence to woodcutting...And then when they realize their mistake, they shove it in a corner. Brilliant Jagex =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Uh wow, you're stupid. I chose the word firstly because it was a beginning of a procedure. My opinions were not a part of the procedure. Learn english nub. FR33 STUFF PL0X! I C4N'T 0RG4N1Z3 W0RTH SH1T S0 I SP4M UP F4NZ1T3Z TH4T J4G3X D03SN'T L00K 4T!

Unorclan, we can play word games, but you can't deny that Jagex is focusing on P2P, NOT F2P Also, I'm curious as to how you protest....Do you just spam places up and wait for someone to report you or what? I mean whats the going to do ..? Suggestion ---- If you want Jagex to do something, give them a balanced reason. Not a bunch of numbers and say something along the lines of 'WAHHH WE CAN'T HOLD THE ITEMS WE GET FROM DEALING WITH JAGEX'S ATTEMPTS AT PREVENTING AUTOING! MORE BANKSPACE PLEASE! MORE BANKSPACE PLEASE!' Firstly, if you really want more bankspace, ask them for something a bit smaller, such as a closet that stores stuff or something

W00T MY RC > URS! 58 RC ftw. Look, F2P has to have a disadvantage or Jagex loses money. This is one of those 'The grass is always greener on the other side' bits. Yeah, it would be greener, but its going to keep getting greener every time you walk a step. When it gets too green you're a pot smoking hippopotamus. It isn't an unreasonable thing to ask, but I still disagree - you just have to organize your stuff, theres no reason to have something like 15 feathers, a fly fishing rod, a fishing rod, a net, when you have 60 fishing. Theres no reason to keep pure essence, find a member and sell it. The only issue I have about bank space is when you lose membership and you have to start over as I did since Jagex offers no support once your subscription ends.

Young Bowsa, you have much to learn. There are not very many hacking communities. Proudly, despite my status as a beginning scripter, I am a member of a community which has some of the most talented scripters out there. One person I believe ran a script for 2 years before Jagex caught onto him...Some communities are more gifted than others. Actually, that part is VERY basic. I don't have much experience, but with what my community has offered and with my current knowledge, I could very easily create a script to do Imp Catcher. Jagex didn't "let" autoers exist. Scripters did, although we vary in what we do. A vast majority of Rs's money coming from alching bows? Congratulations, you got a piece of it right. A vast majority (in skills) comes from Runecraft, selling ANYTHING to shops, High Alchemizing, and Crafting, or anything else that I may have left out that involves a positive change. In closing, the next time you try to start stuff, just shut up, GOOGLE IT, thus finding out what is possible or not, and come up with a real argument. You're complaining about Yew autoers and how in your mind most of the money comes from alching bows, that it kills the game, and GOLD would be worth LESS? causing all sorts of effects? Yeah like what, beating the game within a few years? Letting Jagex decide prices? Even if your imagination was 100% accurate, that wouldn't change things for the better. Edit: Also, anything tangible can be manipulated. Remember that, Young Bowsa.

Uhhh...Wow. Theres nothing urgent about bank space, its not like you can wear full mime and full prince at the same time. Pick a costume and throw the rest out, it's not that hard. This is the reason that P2P has its own forum. F2P IS a demo, whether or not you want to accept it, and it being played on a massive scale doesn't change a thing.

Oh yes, and although you think all botters are here to ruin the game, think again. The SRL-forums has created a botcatcher, for all of those interested in committing a necessary 'evil.' We're here for programming experience and outsmarting a game company, not here to ruin it for the rest of the rs players. http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/botcatcher-t10137.html Yeah, you'll get banned for running it. Notice how it works - reports level 3s and 4s. They won't all be leg. reports. and since you'll be botting yourself, you can count on your noob to be banned. But frankly, I wouldn't care if i got 500 idiots banned along with myself. Edit: It appears that Tip.It doesn't like us much since it blocked out the site. Oh wells, just google botcatcher. Most people that come here won't know how to use it though. =/

There we go, someone who gets it. 500 billion wasn't a typo, it was an exaggeration. Yes, anyone who uses an auto should be banned. The real problem is like I said, Eastern Asians and some political thing. Yes, you are right, but once again - the people who complain when they are banned are usually leechers.

I can understand, to an extent, the anger that people feel against cheaters, but I dislike the bloodthirstily overzealous attitude many normal players seem to have about cheating. I see tons of people complaining about macroers, and calling them "greedy" and "lazy", but all I see from their arguments is: "I want macroers to go away so prices on all my stuff can go up and I can get rich selling them without doing anything." I consider that completely hypocritical. However, coming from a cheating background, I realize that cheating is wrong, but I don't detest them to the extent that the people here do. I still have friends in the cheating community who I talk to regularly. Just because they're doing something that I know is wrong, that doesn't automatically make them greedy, lazy human garbage. As for your last point, if that happened, I'd accept it as the other applicant being better prepared than me. I can never end cheating, just like I can never end worldwide crime, but I can accept that it does happen, however unfairly. So yes, you're right. My view on cheating itself is primarily: "Cheating is wrong. Live with it." It doesnÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâôt make them automatically greedy, lazy human garbage because you know them personally ;) Most people around here feel pretty strongly about Runescape (I used to be one of them), so if they see someone cheating the game their first response is anger. I actually still think that response is legitimate. Just because autoing keeps the prices down doesn't mean we should condone it. When I was still playing I would have happily paid 1k per coal or flax or gathered it myself if it would have meant there would be no more autoers in the game. As for the bolded part of your answer... I don't believe you. If that really was your dreamjob, the someone else getting it should be earning it, not just "having come better prepared". If you can really shrug off losing your dream job to a guy that "cheats" to get it, you and I might aswell be different species because I simply cannot understand that. Pinguin, they ARE greedy, lazy human garbage. They don't write their scripts, they just download a proxy then go in with some script they have never seen in their lives, just to get money and see what it would do. And by money, it's actually REAL money. Go to en.wikipedia.com and search for runescape. Jagex is having trouble because the asians are running around selling accounts and hacking the place up with 1000 accounts each. Which ends up being about 500 billion accounts daily... -_- overpopulation with asians is so scary. They, besides Jagex's poor judgement, were the cause of pure essence. And now you're wondering "He writes hacks, but he hates macroers?" Let me be more specific. I'm working on a hack for air crafting. I will NEVER write anything in the following - Woodcutting, Smithing, Melee, and probably not Magic. The reason I took the time to explain is because there really is no reason to hate all autoers/scripters.

=/ Like I said, don't get the wrong idea. Just because I write hacks doesn't make me dishonest/honest. I probably won't even use my own scripts anyway. For me, its just getting back at the good ol' boys over there for the pure essence update, and getting programming experience at the same time. I mean lets face it, it's such a sad company that it's just asking for someone to mess with it.

No...Its a win-win situation. Theres no third party, because there isn't a skill completely dedicated to the production of essence. Even if you considered it like that, you're wrong. 30 each is actually pretty high, why? Because if it were higher, chances are the World 16 Air Rune company wouldn't exist. Also, you can't blame MOST macroers here, why? Because most macroers are as slimey as Jagex - There for the money. Theres no reason most of them would stick around in mines that you have to do a quest for anyways, and the scripts for getting through tutorial island and completing Rune Mysteries don't work anymore most likely. The problem here is the way you see things. How? Because prices change over time, and it changes not so much with amount, but how much its selling per. Back then it was about 30-35 ea, it was actually HIGH for the macroers. Thus it HELPED miners such as yourself, the only thing that may have mattered is Supply and Demand.

Oh yeah, and Jagex COULD stomp out scripting itself. The company just wants money from scripters instead, keyword - NO REFUNDS. This means Jagex would LIKE to wait for you to buy membership, BEFORE killing your account.

I went and made an account just for this =/ The fishing, mining, runecraft, rune ess autoers, those are the autoers that really contribute to the economy. Woodcutting autoers are problems on f2p. But really and truly, this game blows so bad that without 'thousands of accounts being created for the purpose of evil' the prices would go up, and it would be even worse. Me, I'm scripter and I'm proud of it. Cry at me if you will, but an essence miner selling at low low prices, as horrible as it may sound for your ears, it's helping. Jagex screwed runecraft over. What most people see is something along the lines of 'ZOMG! 3x THE PRICES TO MAKE THE GOOD RUNES!' which is total [cabbage] by itself. But to make things worse, now that people don't auto essence enough, NO ONE ON F2P CAN FIND ESSENCE! Most people when that update came out were thinking along the lines of 'it'll balance out, the regular essence will cost less, the pure essence will cost more! Good update Jagex, the world will be a better place now!' Want to know the reasons? F2P originally sold ALL of the essence. Noobies made easy money, rcers made very good money, everyone won. It was a positive relationship. Then Jagex is sad because 'ZOMG! THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE SCRIPTS ARE MAKING MONEY AND HELPING THEMSELVES AND EVERYONE AT THE SAME TIME!' So eventually out comes mass ip bans which didn't matter but everyone was looking at since it was pleasing to the eye. After all, no one likes autoers, even if they are doing rs a favor. Along with mass ip bans that didn't do worth [cabbage], comes the pure essence. This handy little update has FOUR major effects, two of which not many people have made a connection to. 1.Prices of essence goes up 2.More essence is mined on members servers, Jagex gets more money because AUTOERS don't get refunds. They can still ban you on a past offence they have not caught. 3.Since more essence is mined on members servers, F2P has trouble buying essence without it costing itself extra. 4.and the big one..... F2P CAN'T FIND ITS OWN ESSENCE BECAUSE FORUMS ARE USED FOR PURE ESSENCE! WHY WOULD A MEMBER SELL REG ESSENCE WHEN IT CAN GET 3-4 TIMES AS MUCH? NO ONE BUYS MEMBERSHIP TO RUN BETWEEN BANKS AND ALTARS THUS, THIS IS SHOVED OUT OF JAGEX'S FORUMS. God you people and your ignorance is absolutely amazing. All you seem to have is jealousy of us for writing our damn scripts. It's not like we care about Jagex all that much, it's just a favor we're doing. Practice for future programming for me, a buttload of extra things for you. So long as the rest of them do their part and get the money off their autoers in time via death trading, then its a win-win for the RS Economy.