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Posts posted by PolarBearBlue
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I'm truly dissapointed in Jagex, the 07 server had the potential to be a good idea but by releasing it early like this sure they may have brought in some whiny people and old timers but you just alienated the paying user base who has stuck by and kept feeding you money over the years.
Just give up man. It's done. Jagex was gonna do this because of they way they handled EoC...just play which ever game you want
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Hold the phone! Why do the quest at only 10hp? Is it for pk pures and such or is it to get quest out the way?
Lol I tried going to the security dungeon but it says i need to set recovery questions. So is it asking me to do it on my account for the main RuneSCape?
The account is shared; the character is not. Yes, it asks you for recoveries on your account.
On topic: I guess 07 rs will have players, but in the end it meet RSC's fate. Just saying, no need to flame me.
This was something Jagex wanted to do before we really knew so might as well get your nostalgia on. It can be good to go back to a simple time.
EDIT: But I really wish Jagex would stop release half working content. They could have waited until next week to make sure remaining bugs are only minor.
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My main issue is not taking away from the main game. It's having release major content with major bugs they should have caught.
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So new bts video is out, sounds like the new quest got pushed back by a week to get this bullshit ready to go.
Exhibit #1 of taking resources from the main game.
This is obviously more of a priority over a quest. I guarantee more people would prefer this over a quest.
2007 scape they are pushing hard vs. a grandmaster quest they've put a lot of work into teasing us about.
They share the same priority level to me, considering all the fan girl tears I've been seeing for the quest. Shameful that once AGAIN, they didn't have the major bugs in 2007 scape worked. Just as I was gonna cast vote...
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So I've been reading a bit and trying to make since of everyone being a first mover. So is the general idea of those doing this:
1) Slayer until 85 for combat exp and whips for money (while keeping drops until a good economy is established)
2) Slayer until 55 and barrows camping (I'm assuming with slayer darts)
3) Power questing making sure to get MTK done as early as possible
4) Crafting by which ever method preferred (which to my understanding is cow hides)
5) Magic by any means necessary and alching
6) Trade EoC gp for 2007 gp
Is this a good summary of early ideas that will be popular amoung the 2007scaper?
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EDIT: Sorry for double posting.
Been reading the thread for a bit and oh my globs! Trying to read this thread without clicking the spoliers is like trying not to laugh while watching a Tarantino movie. So just so I'm clear I'll need, 90 prayer, 90 strength, and near a quest cape for this new quest? Aside from being 253/270 qp from WGS, I'm think I'm 10 quest off RotM.
Yeah you have a ways to go in the QP requirements lol.
We do not know that it'll req 90 pray and str - those are just for Koschei the deathless (thought may suspect it may end up being needed to 100% all the rewards.
Anyway that aside from the BTS reqs only the following stats are required (compiled by backtracking all the required quests leading from noob > the 4 required for this quest):
80 Prayer
80 Magic
78 Strength
78 Attack
77 Agile
76 Constitution
76 Craft
76 Mining
76 Woodcutting
74 Firemaking
70 Construction
70 Slayer
70 Smithing
70 Cook
70 Fletch
67 Slay
66 Thief
65 Farming
65 Defence
65 Herb
64 Ranged
62 Fishing
55 Summon
55 Hunt
50 RC
As for avoiding spoilers there's not much to avoid: If you have balmung you can do the koschei thing - the 2 90s and are just extra memories that add a tiny bit more backstory, but 1 can be done level free to get the main events done.
Oh, alright. I kind wanna 100% rewards so I guess I'll be doing more slayer for 90str. Kinda wish I paid more attention to more lore in the quest. I did play attention to all the fremmy quest and most of those dealing with the Mahjarrat, but I may need a bit of a refresher to understand plots.
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Been reading the thread for a bit and oh my globs! Trying to read this thread without clicking the spoliers is like trying not to laugh while watching a Tarantino movie. So just so I'm clear I'll need, 90 prayer, 90 strength, and near a quest cape for this new quest? Aside from being 253/270 qp from WGS, I'm think I'm 10 quest off RotM.
Yeah you have a ways to go in the QP requirements lol.
And just when I bought Metal Gear Rising I have to come back to power my way through quest. Does anybody know roughly how many quest points one would have just doing all the requirements for WGS?
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Been reading the thread for a bit and oh my globs! Trying to read this thread without clicking the spoliers is like trying not to laugh while watching a Tarantino movie. So just so I'm clear I'll need, 90 prayer, 90 strength, and near a quest cape for this new quest? Aside from being 253/270 qp from WGS, I'm think I'm 10 quest off RotM.
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Well, no matter if Jagex gets 250k, 480k, or 575k votes, the older version of this game will be here Friday. So just one curious question, how will a fansite, Like Tip.it, handle information for 2007 server and the main game. Would it use something like the way back machine to get pull older articles or what?
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Jagex rigging the poll, huh? Got any proof? No?
[qfc]317-318-490-64252433[/qfc]. Third. Freaking. Post.
I've already voted twice on both my personal accounts to try and help! However if it was very close like 20K or less away I would certainly make up the difference and pass the vote :DThere's no sense in this shit anymore. Why would they come out and say that they want to rig it? If the community didn't have enough support, let it go. Why give everyone a mulligan come the 28th?
That's rigging the vote? More like not being total douche bags. If the poll reaches 480k votes, Jagex could either say 'oh, you didn't reach 500k. Too bad' or 'oh, you were so close to 500k that we'll be nice and give you the benefits either way'. Which one makes the most sense, both from a company point-of-view, and a customer point-of-view?
Like Thus said, "The problem is no one knows what the magnitude of 30k votes..." As I mentioned before, they may expect the remaining votes to come in short run later. But what can they do if it doesn't come and they find themselves at a point where the marginal cost > marginal revenue?
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PolarBearBlue; Jagex pardoning votes is perfectly fine.
Say someone came into my store and wanted to purchase products worth up to 30$ but he's short a dollar... Do I tell him to get out or do I take the 29$?
If we got up to 470k votes, then of course Jagex should pardon us. Heck I still don't believe we have more than 500k individual paying members.
Most stores wouldn't let me pay any less than the total*... I don't know where you get this information. Seriously.
*: Only exception was a family run farmer's market. I once was about a dollar short and they let it slide. But then again, I am a regular customer during spring/summer/fall and it was a family run business, not some megalomaniac corporation...
The information I gave her was based on what I do and what plenty of other Korean Supermarkets do here in Hawaii. When I went to North Carolina, stores over their do it as well. Way to make a fool out of yourself.
Edit: She pointed it out as well.
Edit2: Even you did. LOL
I wasn't trying to call him/her out. While they did the same thing, the situation is totally different. Veiva is a regular customer at a farmer market where it has probably happened maybe once or twice for him. Up until recently, I lived in the ghetto where they did this for everyone all the time. And even then our situations are different from Jagex. It's better to aline Jagex with Micky D's than a farmer market, Korea market, or a gangbanggers corner store. Our examples aren't looking to be big chain or trying to stay relevant in the industry that way Jagex is. And it's not just $1 we are talking. It is (the ultimate end price)*30k player. Like Thus said, "The problem is no one knows what the magnitude of 30k votes..."
But just to paint another example: 4 block from there is another corner store. If you DO NOT have $30 to pay for your food, they tell you gtfo and they have no problem threatening you. They make sure change is correct there.
Veiva was right, most businesses can't be bothered letting you slide off a dollar short. I don't think Jagex can afford to do, or rather, they don't. Hence the push to get us to vote.
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PolarBearBlue; Jagex pardoning votes is perfectly fine.
Say someone came into my store and wanted to purchase products worth up to 30$ but he's short a dollar... Do I tell him to get out or do I take the 29$?
If we got up to 470k votes, then of course Jagex should pardon us. Heck I still don't believe we have more than 500k individual paying members.
Most stores wouldn't let me pay any less than the total*... I don't know where you get this information. Seriously.
*: Only exception was a family run farmer's market. I once was about a dollar short and they let it slide. But then again, I am a regular customer during spring/summer/fall and it was a family run business, not some megalomaniac corporation...
There is a corner store near my old appartment that does that for everyone. They don't even count the change right. Then again the neighborhood is really bad and poor, everyone pays withfood stamps, and I'm pretty sure the store a gand hangout. So it's not them being nice, they just don't give a rat's ass.
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PolarBearBlue; Jagex pardoning votes is perfectly fine.
Say someone came into my store and wanted to purchase products worth up to 30$ but he's short a dollar... Do I tell him to get out or do I take the 29$?
If we got up to 470k votes, then of course Jagex should pardon us. Heck I still don't believe we have more than 500k individual paying members.
1) Please stop name calling. It's not cool bro. Just makes you look bad. EDIT: referrence to eariler post you made.
2) Yes I would tell him to leave, or only get $29 dollars worth of item. McDonalds doesn't say "Oh 50 cents short. That's okay". They are ultimately a business and you have to pay the price they say. Now Jagex pardoning the votes is probably to STILL encourage people who have not voted to come in. If the 30k votes still don't show and they pardon it, I suppect they are hoping it will in the short run once players see they are upkeeping 2007rs as if they had got 30k. Probelm is, what if they never get it? That's why it's such a big push now. People want it, just not in the amount Jagex hoped to make a profit and break even. So they pull all these trick just short of poll rigging, and bring more people in, yet it's still not enough. So they pardon the vote in hopes they rest will come...
That's the way I see it.
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(Sorry for the double post if this turns out a double post)
I admit fake was a bad word choice. I should have said they'll overlook any small distance remaining for votes, which they consider 20k or less.
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999134 post, post #1491 tenko. Like I said in my edit, he said that he'll make up a small difference on the 500k level, and he considered small 20k. So I won't put it pass him to do it at 250k.
But whatever, doesn't matter. Doesn't make a difference anyway.
Makes a big difference. If it reaches 500k, it gets updates. Then more people complain about whatever updates it gets/doesn't get, quit, Jagex loses money.
I was speaking more as I give up if Tenko doesn't see how it's a little shaddy. I admit, my edit were pretty late but I directed him to the post and he asked me the same question again...
But to answer you, as given by Ponyless (post #1530) and mentioned for some pages back Jagex did a lot to get this attention when it was suppose to be a poll to see interest. The moment they set this up, they had an idea as to the outcome beofre any of us did. The constant flip-flopping on their part is rather annoying, first telling us EoC will be great, then pushing us to vote for this. It's like with SOF/SGS. If they had admitted to need more money to help the game grow instead of changing rules to fit their needs and twisting words, I don't think it'd have as big of a outlash as it would have. So I rather they just have said in their New Year posy "For the poor way we shelled out EoC we will bring 2007scape back" instead of all this.
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999134 post, post #1491 tenko. Like I said in my edit, he said that he'll make up a small difference on the 500k level, and he considered small 20k. So I won't put it pass him to do it at 250k.
But whatever, doesn't matter. Doesn't make a difference anyway.
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Jagex rigging the poll, huh? Got any proof? No?
I don't suppose the fact that they've done it before counts?
My proof
The good news is rolling in atm :P
Little sad GWD is not going to happen, but I had mixed feelings on that anyway, the AGS blitz rush was the first real dangerous OTK.
Edit: another MMG post, looks like 500k might happen if we get anywhere near close lol.
How's this proof that Jagex is cheating?
I had to edit it because I fail at quoting, but he basically said he'll make up the difference. See 999134 post on page 75. He said he'll do it for 500k, but I wouldn't put it pass him to do it for 250k.
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Jagex rigging the poll, huh? Got any proof? No?
I don't suppose the fact that they've done it before counts?
My proof
The good news is rolling in atm :P
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Will it be possible at some point for normal members to play as F2P on old school servers?
Mod Mmg: Hopefully if we hit 500K votes all members will have access to the service for free! I've just seen that we are only 10K away from hitting the 250K level!!!
Uh... last I checked (which is now) we're still 34k votes away...
No, you're 10k away, as in find me 10k more people who want this and we'll fake the remaining 24k...
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Ugh, I'm really torn about getting my vote in.
Jagex is going full steam ahead, regardless of what the community decides, so I might just as well vote, get the 'early' access and the free month... but all the while, I'm still kind of against the idea. And I hate going along with their cheap ploys. Principles and all.
Yeah. It feels like they want to make me feel bad for not voting, like "HAAAAAAAAAAAA! YOU MISSED OUT! BEST [bLEEP] EVA!" But then I think about what I'll do 2 weeks from now, 2 months, and 2 years from now. I know once I set foot off tutorial island, I wouldn't want to come back. I enjoy a good protion of update for Jagex (clearly in the minority) and even thou the graphic aren't top class, I know I'll enjoy the main game more than 2007. A big reason for 2007scape was pking and no GE. As much as it would be fun to hawk my steel longswords in lumby, I don't wanna go back and get those mining and smithing levels again. And I don't do much PvP. So as great as free is, it's not for me. I rather get a quest cape and wait for more quest. Oh and fashionscape.
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If you had any interest maybe you should have voted anyways. Since you didn't vote, I assume you didn't want it from the beginning. You don't have the right to [bleep].
There is till time to vote...
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Suck on that!
Suck on what? What would we be mad about?
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You think you are soooooo hawt with those icon and 304qp and 99 fm and 98 hunter! You ain't nobody! >:[
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I used a guide for MEP2. Cba to remember half that [bleep]. I suppose it was the guide that made me indifferent to the quest. Or the fact that I was playing ewith colors. If you do MEP1 and 2, I suggest jumping right into Within the light. I still have that quest sitting as started in my log...:P
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I'm pretty sure this entire thread debate came to a near conclusion when we discovered that Jagex's over bearing pushing of 2007scape meant that they had planned this from the beginning due to how bad they handled the EoC update. if you have a complaint stop getting mad at me on here and take it up with them. Let them have their fun in 2007.