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Forgot to screenshot my progress last night :S but no matter, I did it this morning if anyone's interested

If you actually read the whole story and not nit-pick then you'd know that I have no problem with people having their own opinions, but I do when they start to have a go at me for raising the issue.. as Omalli (or whatever his name is) and bauku did. Like I said, grow some e-balls. Not all criticism is a personal attack, and if you can't handle that.. well, then I know where your topic is coming from. You handle criticism or semi harshness like a baby. This is the intertubes. It's words on a screen. Stop complaining about everything that is said to you. Sorry, but 'Grow some e-balls' is not criticism, thats definately a personal attack, The attitude you and omali, have shown have proven the OP's point no end. The same topic last time i don't remember any comments like you have shown. Oh come on. If you can't handle that, it's pretty much pathetic. It's simply an opinion. Not everything has to be said with extremely nice words. Well I'm back and yea I agree 'Grow some e-balls'.. meh not exactly the worst remark made to anyone. Omali.. he just automatically took a dislike to the fact this thread was being made again and very pettily decided to follow it to the end of the discussion by disquising it as "his opinion" and honestly Omali, your opinion is something i could live without? cause honestly I don't really care what you think I'm addressing the general people of tip.it... Oh, and Danqazmlp is right, you 2 have proved my point to no end. L0l gf u gt 0wned kid

If you actually read the whole story and not nit-pick then you'd know that I have no problem with people having their own opinions, but I do when they start to have a go at me for raising the issue.. as Omalli (or whatever his name is) and bauku did.

Yes I agree, but I think the topic has rather gone off my intended topic a bit, that I think that the overall "respect" towards players has plummeted, for example: A player (level 54) came upto me while I was fletching, I wasn't talking at all because I was watching a program, and he starts to slag me off.. I look to the screen and its just him and a mate telling me how I'm a nerd and how I no-life everything. My main point being I don't believe that would of happened when I had started? my opinion but I don't think that would have happened, and about always picking out the good points. That could not be more wrong for me; I remember when I got lured to the zamorak wine and died. When I got lured into the wildy and lost my first ever whip that I'd spent ages earning money to get. But I still remember a high level killing goblins in goblin village with me just for company, and how I met most of my current friends. What I'm basically trying to say is that: Yes, there have always been nasty and unpleasant people. People out there for their own gain and not caring about who they beat down to get it, it's the same in runescape and even more so in real life. But imo the general population, in runescape, have moved ever so slightly towards the self-gain aspect of runescape and further away from niceties and pleasantness. This may be the same for everyone, or other people may have different views but that's what I made the thread for, to see if there was anyone else who thought the same as me. Also another anecdote, that some people might remember for themselves for not: As a low level, the word noob was thrown round A LOT, even more than today. But at around 2007, as I started to reach the 95-100 cb mark.. I started to notice the word nerd and no-life thrown around much more commonly as the new insult. But even as recently as 6 months ago the word's kid, lad and son were thrown around more than anything as a way of showing superiority. Now, everyone knew that noob meant you didn't know a lot, or weren't experienced in the game etc. and i could live with being called a noob pretty happily as I dished it out as much as I took it; but as personal insults (even when logic tells us that they don't know us at all) were becoming more common, I felt runescape was changing for the worse and that there were so many more angry and bitter people around than ever causing disrespect to our fellow players.

I see what you did there. As my good friend Larry King once said, if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck. It's a duck. You can call it whatever you'd like, it's still a duck. The difference is this duck is asking what other people think of water.

It's good to know not everyone is the same :). Pures are most known for their friendly attitude :thumbup: . No doubt.

Thankyou for clearing some things up, if I knew that this topic would have turned out like this I would NEVER have posted it.

It's good to know not everyone is the same :).

Get out in the light and I'll grow some e-balls.. deal?

Anyway, the discussion moves onward! Miniclip did bring in a lot of kids, I'll agree, but I still maintain my point of it being a natural effect of the community getting larger and that, for every X amount of people you bring in, you will always have a certain number of bad eggs. If you go by a closed doors experiment, like Runescape Classic, you'd see that only a certain type of player was eligible for continuing play, and as a result mostly hardcore classic players and autoers are left. If you were to open it to the public again, we'd see the return of "OMG rsc sux" threads and questions of how people can level runecrafting when it isn't even on the skill list. Your thoughts? Chilled beverage? You're a nasty piece of work.. opened topic for friendly discussion and you alone have somehow made my day so much worse.

Thread closed, don't know what I ever saw in these forums.

In the words of Boxxy, "I AINST TROLLIN". News flash: When someone disagrees with you, it doesn't make them a flamer, troll, or a "disrespectful person". You'll find on Tip.It I rarely dole out respekt to people who create threads just to cry about the community. It's the elephant that's been in the room for years, and everyone's stopped bothering mentioning him as long as he doesn't soil the rug or eat our potted plants, because he's not going away and feeding him will only make him bigger. Really? I thought the thread was a whine-off on how Runescape's community used to be a paradise of fr33 st0ff, niceties, and mature people, of which runescape has never been any of the three, and there'll be another thread just like this next month saying the exact same thing. The community hasn't gotten worse, per capita, it's just gotten bigger, and while the percentage of bad users hasn't changed much, they've just gotten a lot more vocal. The game itself has changed for a much greater good. The only major changes I've seen in the community are the lack of mass-autoers, and the return of a lot of Edgeville pkers who left in 07 when the big updates hit. Going back to your first post.. telling me that I'm the reason that runescape has gone down hill = disrespectful. I never did anything against you in particular and it seems you are just in a bad mood or if you're always like this, then I feel sorry for people that do know you. I'm fine if you want to disagree, but you're phrasing of it was pitiful at best. Also, do you think that if one thread stayed in circulation, ASKING people what they think then more threads wouldn't have to be made. This thread isn't a rant and it shouldn't be turned into a flame war, it's a DISCUSSION. Something I was hoping could be turned into an "adult" discussion, but obviously I was wrong and even being a newcomer to the tip.it forum community you aren't giving me much more hope into the friendliness of these forums. Please try and be as civil as I am to you.

I understand you're point of view aswell, but have you never noticed that if someone really gets you angry in game it can reflect your mood irl? Hahahaha yes! Well not so much anymore, I've learned to take runescape alot less seriously, and most of the time, I can laugh about people who annoy me, so yeah, I try really hard to leave it to video gamess, and make sure it doesn't carry on when I'm not playingg.. Thats probably the right way to go XD unfortunately I find it hard to retort to a lvl 98 calling me a noob because I'm wearing an arma plate and sara d'hide legs at aviansies, and pride just won't let me ignore it XD.

I understand you're point of view aswell, but have you never noticed that if someone really gets you angry in game it can reflect your mood irl?

Right, because I've been playing only a couple months. I just stole this Tip.It account that's been here since 2005. I also stole my Runescape account that I've had since 2003. As for being "aggressive". It's called a joke. Not a joke in the same sense as this thread is a joke. More a sarcastic joke than a pitiful joke. There's your rose tinted glasses. There's your aggressiveness again, and I can already see through your flaming of my thread that you are one of the disrespectful people that I'm talking about. The Thread is about what you think of people in the game when you meet them, not what you think I am or am not, and if you really think that thing's haven't changed (for better or worse) then I think you're looking through blacked out glasses.

No, this isn't a rant thread.. this is a thread asking people what they think. Not a thread to release my anger at the population of runescape.. thats what a punchbag is for.

No need to be so aggressive about it really, I was stating my opinion.. but I can say that atleast I am courteous if someone shows me the same respect. If someone steals my kills I will go about my business until it gets too hard to bear and I'll ask them to move/hop then if they don't I'll just hop worlds, and really how am I looking at runescape through rose-tinted glasses? I've played runescape long enough to know how things have changed and how there IS in an decrease in the general respect around, play a bit longer and you might pick that up.

One of the things that has changed the runescape experience, or has been changed by the newer runescape experience is the basic human respect that you expect between people. It's happening more and more that generally people in runescape are becoming much more self centered and rude. I remember when you started runescape as a level 3 in lumbridge there was nearly always a helping hand somewhere near whether it be a high level player or simply someone in your same position where you could work things out together, but that in recent years has declined to almost nothing. Its the same in p2p, that respect is no longer given to anyone. It seems the only people that ever gain respect anymore are famous pkers, but even then they are shunned. Level 138's are called nerds for wasting their time getting that level, and anyone below 100 cb are seen as noobs or called kids. A lot of friendships within runescape have been broken because of the Pvp updates but also various other things that people have felt made runescape not worth playing anymore; but does this give an excuse for people to be rude and self centered though? I think we have all met or seen someone being like what I described "L0l n3rd.. get a lif kid." There are many many reasons what the eruption of these attributes could be put down to, but these are my opinions: 1. The influx of a child-friendly game has attracted moody pre-teens or generally more nasty little kids 2. Runescape is turning more into a place where people log on just to insult someone else to make themselves feel better and they log off again, it's happened before. 3. It might have something to do with the increase of no-honor pking aswell, as the old bounty hunter taught everyone that to make the most money, you've got to be willing to kill people with penalties, has this increased the anger in players? 4. Wide open spaces and the decline of the "homely style" that the game used to boast with it's bad graphics and interface. 5. Greed, with more powerful and expensive things thrown into the game, people are more willing to stand on their fellow man to reach those expensive things. Tell me/us why you think runescape respect has declined, or whether you think it hasn't declined at all?

thanks i will :D

Thanks for the support ^^ my side account is in underground pass at the moment, time to see how long the quest takes me XD.

B U M P. Aiming for 3k aviansies today :) sorta no lifing it, although It's fine, because I just weight lift or go on my exercise bike while I kill, which is really the only thing that's keeping me sane at the moment. Since I'm really very sick of gwd now >.<. But oh well; someone please post soon :o not seen any posts in days

B U M P, great progress today

B U M P, >.< didn't make it to glastonbury this year.. but I AM going next year >.> I'd kill to get there :!:

10,327 kills to go :o starting to lose the will to live and I'm not even half way there :wall:

Thanks for the support; I have actually gone down to 10-20 hp a few times when i havent been paying attention... and its only my defence level that has saved me :D but yea, if i ever did die I'm hoping i'd get to gwd fast enough to grab all my stuff They're all in order o.O at first I did a mixture of aviansies and bandos while killing the odd sara and zammy monster, then decided I'd get bandos finished so I could concentrate on 1 at a time. And no I haven't left gwd since i started this goal, and I don't see why .png would make a difference o.O? but i'll try it... .png is better quality :D Ok, I'll use that in future thanks ^^