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Yes I work, I work all the freaking time. Half the stuff I buy I buy with my own money, the only real time I get stuff bought for me is my birthday, Christmas, and when its something like a suit for school or school supplies like pencils.

Poor go [bleep] yourself Its called a capitalist society for a reason. People who are poor generals screwed up somewhere and they have to live with that. Why should I have to work for someone else to have health care. They want good health care? They can work. If they don't want to be "poor" enroll in the Armed Forces, they will take care of you. And for those of you who are undoubtedly going to say, "You need money to go to college and to make lots of money you need a good education." My step dad has never spent a single day in college, and makes more than $200,000 a year. He has had no further education that high school.

In the first statement, I mean the government. In the 2nd one I mean which ever terrorist's rights we are violating. I intended it to refer to Al Qaeda.

You "Mossiah" is already doing that. Now anyone under the age of 13 can't buy a dirt bike because they are afraid they might lick the gear box. That is defiantly not controlling my life! When they became a terrorist they gave up their human rights. They can step all over every other persons but when they get caught they go and hide behind the rights they just so blatantly blew up. You say that the torture encourages terrorism... Who did what first? They attacked us, we retaliated. Point Blank. Robert keep on fighting.

I have asked all my parents about torture in the past, they are all for it. They have always been for it, and I am almost positive they will always be for it. I never said every other race/country is subhuman to the US, technically I'm a Scottish and American citizen. I have family in the Uk, Germany, Russia, Czech Republic, and honestly, I don't think the terrorists in the middle east I was referring to are subhuman, just so freaking xrazy that peace is not even an option.

What about NK's links to the terrorist groups in the middle east?

I would be annoyed, but that would never happen in America, plus when at my dads I'm next to Camp Lejeune and when at my Mom's I'm only 45 Mins from Fort Bragg so we would kick [wagon].

Why did we ever even begin bothering them? Because they killed Americans. They are or were being held under charge, its called war crimes. You wonder how we know their terrorists? Well not ever single person walking around in those nations are terrorists and usually the ones who are not terrorists don't carry AK-17's or bomb making supplies. You know, usually they have guns on their backs... Kinda gives it away... or maybe the shots being fired at our soldiers, that just might give them a slight hint. One of the reasons they are locked up is because they shot at an American, or have been identified as hostile.. Go over to the middle east, follow around a battalion, get shot at.. and then tell me the guy who shot at you is not a terrorist. There are too many damn [kitties] now a-days. Peace may fix some stuff, but it is not a solution to everything and that 's just that.

So your saying that 20 American soldiers lives are not worth some pin [puncture]'s emotions who would most likely run into the group of the marines with a bomb strapped to him, given the opportunity? If so then you are one screwed up person.. What happened to support the troops? If the US had to kill 20 terrorists to save 15 American lives, they got my 110% support. The terrorists belong in hell, were just giving them a one way ticket. Gitmo is not as bad as they put it, the guard there watching the damn hodgies got worse treatment then them. They got 3 square meals a day, prayer time, and what do the guards get? Crap thrown at them, they sometimes go without food for a day or 2, they have to put up with the losers. In retrospect, they are barely hurt. You may not know this but torture is a reliable way, they squeal, they get sent back to their cell, the info is confirmed or denied, if it is denied the hodgie gets another visit from the conductor. This happens until the info is received. If you think peace with someone will solve the problems, tell me, I will buy you a ticket there and you can talk it out. Tell me how it goes.

Alright, if you don't think it can happen here is how its going to go down, North Korea, now with long range ballistic missile capabilities, fires a missile at the US or an ally. That ally declares war on NK and we send some help, then China gets involved, they starts moving troops, we realize they are siding with NK, we get more involved, then Russia splits, the rebels side with China/NK and the others go with the allies, congratulations, you have just seen world war 3.

Well... assassination is a believable charge for me because I have -jokingly- spoken with friends about getting rid of a certain someone but then the person who would fill his place would be even worse. There are, and here is one: there is a known attack on a large surveillance plane carrying 20 navy/marines along with classified information. They are sure of this attack and one of the accomplices is in CIA control. The attack is in 2 hrs and the guy knows exactly which of the 3 planes its going to happen to. They torture him and find out which plane it is and they send F17's to escort the plane to the final destination. Had they not done what they did, 20 more American lives would have been lost because they were too afraid to torture some crazy that only wants "death to the infidel". Would you want someone who wants to kill you hett slightly hurt or 20 Americans dead because your too much of a pussie to torture his [wagon]? If I were to be tortured, which is very unlikely considering my family's history, they would have a damn good reason for torturing a 14 year old, straight A, student.

I have 2 things to say: 1st off, the second I an afford to live on the moon I am buying a 1 way ticket an interstellar U-Haul. 2nd off, if someone knew that Ahmed was planning on flying a plane into you house wouldn't you rather have him get a few bruises then you wake up one morning to a plane propeller 3 inches from your face? On an every day instance torture is wrong, but under certain instances it can be completely justified.

He damn sure understands it more than some.

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Hey Robert, mind if I use that against my History teacher? He always uses the "Who died and made the US king" thing.

That is if Obama lets them.. But unfortunately its all about peace now.. Sometimes peace just doesn't fix a problem.

What is Obama saying? He said unless we were directly attacked he would try his damnedest to stay out of any conflict involving NK. Well how did the US enter WWII? An attack by Japan on the US. How is the US going to enter WWIII? An attack on the US by NK. What is you are a descendant of Abe? For all we know he could be your great great great uncle. People always have similarities but since when have to completely different era's had tings so similar that it could practically be the same. I mean honestly, If you gave the first Alien 2 papers giving details about whats happening now and what happened back then (not including names, dates and other obvious clues), he would probably say that they were the same time periods from different perspectives.

This is what the people who say we can all live as equal being need to realize. There will always be someone with more authority than them. There will always be someone poorer than them. There will always be someone richer than them. There will always be differences. There will always be a governor and the governed. There will always be someone watching someone else. My history teacher says that the US has no right to wage war, threaten, or even intervene with the NK missile plots. He constantly aks who gave the US the power to govern other countries and enforce policies. He fails to understand that if we didn't enforce established policies and watch over others there will be utter chaos and anarchy. On another note... This seems a lot like late 30's and early 40's. -WWI came to a close -The Iraqi war is (sort of) ending. -The stock market crashed -the economy is a gutted fish -Hoover is promising redemption of the US -Obama is promising "change" and "solutions" -Countries are building military's and tensions grow -NK is firing missiles and allies of NK are building up armies. -WWII starts -(THIS HAS NOT HAPPEND YET) WWIII starts See the connections?

I'm going to be blatant.... There are too many [kitties] and not enough people who are willing to stop something that is extremely dangerous. It has started with many other nations, and I though it wouldn't happen to the US, but it has. 70% of the world is one giant [kitty], 20% of the world is what they are afraid of and are too crazy to realize how crazy they are, and the other 5% of the world doesn't have enough support to revert the [kitties] or defeat the crazies.

According to Fox News, NK is now planning a 2nd missile launch... See what happens when we let something fly. Now NK thinks they can get away with firing a new missile every other day.. Also what happened to there being a UN ban on NK launching missiles, and tha their failure to comply would result in military action? All bark and no bite obviously.

Yes, those large missile tanks parading around NK are just diversion. NK is secretly training the DCF (Deadly Club Force) and doesn't want anyone else to have that amazing technology. The missiles don't really contain explosives but are full of clubs that shall be delivered to DCF when they attack. Those guns the NK soldiers were carrying around weren't really guns either. They were elite forms of clubs that are also being disguised. Everyone knows that those damn NK clubs are way more deadlier than any large missile or mass army. They also don't need the support of any other country. They have China. Where does 90% of our products come from? China. They can cut us off, and side with NK. They may not have the best technologies, but they sure as hell have the man-power to do some damage. <----- This is why I vote for the complete and utter destruction of NK. I can see it now, "Come one, come all! Come see Kim in his entirety under water!! Come visit North Korea, the NEW Atlantis.

Even if it is just a satellite it still poses a threat. Before this NK didn't have any long range ballistic missiles, now that they have a satellite up in space they can triangulate missile strikes anywhere in the world. We should have taken the "satellite" out because, although we now know it isn't, it could have been a warhead. Its better to have one small nation pissed of at us because we shot a missile down then let them have it and then 30 million American lives are lost. The next "satellite" could really be a bomb and Kim will say "Well the last 2 were harmless". Then our ally will get bombed (or us) and then we will smoke check NK, then China will be mad and so on so fourth.. <---- All avoidable by a simple Patriot missile and some hard feelings. I mean, honestly, what could NK do if we shot down the satellite. Mabey nuke SK and start a war.. then we carpet bomb the life outta them and make NK the new Atlantis.

Ugh sure, I can get the specs now... but ill have to go find a camera.. I suck at "professionally" wiring so it looks like crap. but I got the awesoem AMD Phenom sticker on the case :thumbsup: If there is anything else I left you, just let me know AMD Phenom Agenda x4 9600 @ 2.3ghz 430W PSU 4096MB ddr2 1066mhz RAM nVidia e-GeForce 9600 Gt superclock edt. 250 Gb SeaGate 10,000 RPM SATA HDD 22" LCD flat panel monitor Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit dual booting with Ubuntu 8.01 64bit

I got every part today and put it together perfectly! Everything runs great, I only had 2 problems, one of the small relectors was disconnected and connecting the Power Button cable and ect was a pain. Otherwise its great. I am doing waaaay more than I used to at 23% CPU used =D The nice blue lights are cool, just if you get the MOBO ever be sure to change the boot setup.. it starts with the input device (usb stick and such) then hard drive then CD.. realized that the hard way.

I had noticed the 8 pin thing a while ago. I couldn't tell from the picture weather or not the connector was an 8-pin or a 4-pin so i called up tech support for the PSU. The guy said the psu has a standard 4-pin connector that can be attached to a 2nd 4-pin connector also on that PSU to form the 8-pin connection needed. ;) Everything except the case and PSU should be here today! I checked the UPS thing and the stuff is in Greensboro. Unfortunately the case and psu have not even left Cali. If for what ever reason it doesn't have the 8-pin I will order the 4-pin connector because my Mom wouldn't be happy if I had to return it because I didn't check the connectors.