I'm level 81 smithing XP and i have, or wait, had 3,500 gold ore's but i sold them all XP but what i was thinking of doing was either buying a bunch of iron and superheating till i'm level 80, or mining coal, addy, and mithril rocks and superheating and making bars out of that and selling them, to make profit? Haha looked at wrong sig :smile: It will take you a long long long long long time to mine your own coal/mith/addy and I would NOT reccomend it. Gold or iron if you plan on superheating, but since you dont want the xp from gold then you should probably do some kind of lunar spell or alch+stun combo OK thanks, i got from 60-77 mining maybe 80 i think actually not sure just from doing that method XP took me FOREVER haha but i think i'll just stick to hi-alching, and some PC