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Actually, there's proof that Earth existed for billions and billions of years, while Judiasm/Christianity claim it existed for about... 7K years or so? No, if the earth has been around for "billions" of years I believe the religion of Christianity has been around for billions of years as well. I believe the religion off Judaism\Christianity started as soon as the world was created, thus creating my viewpoint on marriage cannot predate Judaism\Christianity. That's just plainly rediculous to think Judiasm/Christianity existed before human beings did. Just absurd. EDIT: as for your proof... That's not a proof, that's someone else's opinion. While they may be experts, their opinion is still that. An opinion. EDIT2: Enlighten us (seriously).

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I'm a she :wink: .

I don't see anything wrong with asking for proof for something as important as a human perspective or as a way of life. Anyone who lives his life believing in something that cannot and will not be proven, is a fool IMO. Mind you, I belonged to the other side myself. I was the perfect believer, I did anything I could think of to "reach God", I studied, I preached, I read, and I even defended God from people like me. I'm also willing to hear the other side, and have done so, times and times again. Unless I see proof, I'm not going to enslave myself in the favor of a fairytale, yet I'm all ears to anyone who wishes to show me the other way with proof Oh, I'm geniunely interested in debating this topic, but after years of thought and debate, I don't believe the other side can present anything new. I am, however, fully willing to keep hearing the other side, and explaining myself aswell. At one point, Apollo fit that description exactly, today Apollo is nothing but mythology. The fact that a large part of the world's population believes in something does not mean the "burden of proof" no longer stands. Technically, FSM is "beyond our reach and unable to be tested", but that does not mean that we should be agnostic towards it or not "levy the burden of proof" on anyone who truely believes in FSM (even if no one fits that description). You see, only one truth can exist. There can't be no God and at the same time be, it's not possible that both Christianity and Hinduism are correct. And so, I think not believing in any specific God is the natural thing any of us would have done if our parents and/or society did not present the concept in front of us. As such, and since there couldn't be a way to prove God doesn't exist, I believe it's theists' "job" to prove what they think is right, and not atheists'. For that paragraph alone, I can present the Mr.Green case again. --------------------- Read my previous post for an answer. Again, the fact that many believe/believed in God at one time or another doesn't make him "real" by the original meaning of the word. Apollo was widely believed in at one time, and in the same way you claim God to be real, so is Apollo.

What you don't understand is that Mr.Green is a perfectly fit analogy of God. Whether I do or don't believe in Mr.Green does not validate his existence any more/less, and if you want, you can take my argument as if I really did believe in him, and compare it to 'God'. You'll see it can't be proven, and can neither be disproven- but that does not mean that we should necessarily believe in it or be agnostic towards it. If it wasn't Mr.Green, it could be Apollo, it could be Ra, it could be FSM, and it could be fairies.

You guys look so cute <3: .

The story lacks a supernatural factor, or something that has to do with leaving the 2 women alone. You know, if he got back and saw his wife with cuts and bruises similar to the other woman's... Wow, I didn't know my mind was capable of thinking about these things O.O...

The existence of God can neither be proven nor disproven; there is no factual "evidence" to support either side, only opinions/personal beliefs. However, when someone tells you a story, and claims it to be the only truth, it's his job to prove he's correct, and not your job to disprove his story. If I posted here that the only true God is Mr.Green ( :mrgreen: ) because he's so kind, and he really did create the universe, and because I have a book of his word, none of you could prove me wrong, but that's not your job. It's my job to present proof regarding Mr.Green's doings, and the truthfulness in the book I claim to have. "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."- Christopher Hitchens

Actually, there's proof that Earth existed for billions and billions of years, while Judiasm/Christianity claim it existed for about... 7K years or so?

I'm better than you because my feet are bare! P.S. Thanks :).

I like my men like I like my paper, interesting to read, yet sharp on the edges. Light bulbs.

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I'm very sorry for you :sad: ...

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Way to patronize, man. And not rly, since it's merely my opinion, which is subjective and thus, cannot be proved wrong. But yes, prove me wrong. S0n. What? Ofcourse opinions can be proven wrong... I didn't like the movie Up In the Air. My opinion was that it wasn't that good. That's my opinion. You can't prove to me that I actually did like it. And that's what makes opinions opinions and not facts. Yes, but his opinion was based on what he saw as facts, if these 'facts' can be proven wrong, his opinion is also wrong. The reason no one can prove you wrong when you say you liked the movie, is because it's not based on anything other than your personal preferance, and thus you're the only one who could confidently say whether or not *you* liked the movie.

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I'm better than you because...umm... I'm a month and 4 days younger than you! P.S. Late happy birthday :)!

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I just couldn't stop laughing after that, lol!

Way to patronize, man. And not rly, since it's merely my opinion, which is subjective and thus, cannot be proved wrong. But yes, prove me wrong. S0n. What? Ofcourse opinions can be proven wrong...

Why do you need to ask? Actually explain why they are 'wrong on so many levels' rather than threaten to... Because I'd be wasting a few minutes of my life explaining to someone that marriage didn't come from the Bible, and that nowadays people marry for certain legal benefits such as... Now, there are couples than do not have that privilege because they're denied those rights. Ok, so if gov and religion should be separate then the government should only give civil unions unbiasedly with all the legal benefits and then churches can grant marriage, that way churches retain their right to marry and the gays get their benefits. Just like I said, and like Meol said, Christians did not come up with the term 'marriage'. They shouldn't dictate it.

I don't know why, but that was really funny. I laughed a little bit. IT'S A SIDE EFFECT OF CAPS LOCK!