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I'll still be guidewriting for Dg Family dw. I wish these high school years could just fly by already. D: I heard in college, lotsa fun stuff happens, things you never get to experience at my age right now. Hint hint. (Or alternatively try to do so right now. ;) ) But nah. University is when you're detached from the friggin' rule-enforcing hub that is your family, and truly get to experience life as you know it. I can't wait! :pray:

Funorb membership should be the same, if not cheaper than RS membership. And if it wasn't then Water would be kicked out of the Top 250 F2P Skill list ;) Speaking of which, name changing should be made for everybody. I want to poke fun at my friends using my display name :(

I find video guides about dungeoneering to be useful, but I don't use video guides much so yeah.

What if there are multiple deputy owners? Who does the ownership belong to then?

fix'd

Added some few more stuff regarding challenge rooms, it's coming surely but slowly to its complete phase. I'd say Tome of Frost is better overall, but Magical Blastbox is better for combating.

For any level 3 skiller, I found out a way to complete Shield of Arrav without gaining any combat experience, if you're in the Black Arm Gang. The misconception for most Black Armers is that they must enter and kill the Weaponsmaster to take the crossbows, but that's not needed at all! You just need a Phoenix partner who has the ability to teleport grab, and have said partner trade the skiller the crossbows. This is laid down in easy steps: Phoenix (combatant) Talk to Reldo, then Straven. Kill Jonny the Beard and take the drop. Go back to Straven, get the key and the shield half. Get runes for 2 telegrabs and take both of the crossbows. Black Arm (skiller) Talk to Charlie the Tramp, then Katrina. Get your Phoenix gang partner to give you the crossbows. Go back to Katrina with the crossbows, and get the shield half. That's how I managed to get to the Champion's Guild as a level 3, with 2 prayer lol.

Dungeoneering. All activities. All bosses. Merching/flipping. It's not that easy bro.

I've already started school on Wednesday actually. Because of this I'm slowly decreasing my activity on Runescape and focusing more on the forums and of course real life. If you play your cards right, you shouldn't really die on small dungeons at all (frozen, abandoned 1 and furnished are our smalls). In larges (abandoned 2), loot food while killing in GD's and eat it while you're running. Gatestone trick to avoid some attacks from bosses or puzzles even. I have a history of not eating in larges and hence I wound up with a death or two each and every floor :lol:

Should always wear monk robes, twisted bird and explorer's ring to maximize your prayer, especially if you're a low prayer level. Gravite rapier, gravite shortbow and mith+ arrows should be the only weapons you should bring with you.

Would not consider that for any situation... - Mains? Obviously with high stats it's gonna take a long time for it to kill you. - Skillers? You need to attack the roach for it to attack you so that doesn't work either. - Pures? Sure they're 1 def, but most usually come with high constitution... Note that it's a good tip, it just doesn't seem practical at all. As a side note I'm not updating this guide anymore. As soon as I finish my dging guide, I'm officially retiring from my guidewriting things.

Personally, I think spear, 2hander, short/longbow and maul would be the ultimate combo, because you have everything that you need for the best of all styles. For ammo just bind arrows and ask the skillers to get you toolkit, cosmics and laws. That's what they SHOULD be doing anyway. And for all you guys I have spear, gauntlets and boots bound with cosmic runes atm, I'm lazy XD but I won't be dunging much nowadays so yeah. What's the point of binding two bows? :s

Why don't you keep using obt's thread lol.

You must be in the Black Arm Gang, and you need a combat partner in the Phoenix Gang who can cast teleport grab. Basically the Phoenix Gang partner does his share of getting the shield, then after getting the weapon storage key, simply telegrab the two crossbows and trade them to the Black Arm Gang partner. This basically allows skillers to complete said quest without gaining any combat experience. Just throwing this out. :shades:

I just realized more and more people are retiring from tif staff lately. Hmm I wonder what's going on...

7M MOAR DG XP TO GO@@@@@@@ Also if you wanna I can ask an admin/general to let you join the party over here ;) you seem pretty competent to me. we lack cb's atm :c

O NO ZAAPS YOU LOST UR PURP TITLE TOO? D: Welcome back to being a user ;)

I'm really wondering if fractite platebody is even worth a 3rd bind at all. I mean it has defense which is useful, yes, but the higher your defense/constitution the less useful it becomes, even less so if you know how to trap/kite and prayer flash. Not to mention, it weighs nearly 10kg which is pretty damn significant in f2p, with no agility and all that. If pures are able to handle their way with even lower defense, why even consider armor binds for us mains... Just throwing this out there.

Initially I thought of spear/gauntlets/boots, but I'm not so sure now. I might unbind boots for a 2h. Hell no, I want some added challenge. ;) Tysm!!!! Thanks a lot Gwyn ^^ Due to school starting I won't be playing much nowadays. In fact I probably wouldn't play much at all... I really want real life to take priority, so I'm signing off for now. Keep this thing alive@@@

Thank you! ^^ lol, it would be even better if I were actually to go for 12x10 dungeoneering... but I won't haha. I mostly get 15-20 minute larges. It depends on the partners really. And I don't think I can dg tomorrow, I'm going back to where I live which has [cabbage]ty internet :/ Nice pic you got there XD Anyways created a skiller account called Cyan Laser. I will be playing on that account as well, maybe more over Sonic now since I've completed the major goal that I wanted for a long time. Got 33 dung on my skiller already lol.

And immediately after I gain an access to a 3rd bind:

3 binds only, jelly???

You call 22min average pro, lol? Not even. And Blue fails. Thanks a lot ^^ Another 80 and I FINALLY reached my goal of 100 dungeoneering :thumbsup: time to go train other stuff for now.

In smalls there is this rusher/game carrier system. The rusher is the ggs carrier and manages all non-tk doors. The game carrier gets a tk, cosmics/laws and does all tk doors and puzzles. Obviously if the skillers are able to they should get tk cosmics and laws to everyone. In larges both should get tk cosmics and laws. I recommend getting them by looting cash after your first gd.