You should have done the mature thing... That is, lure 4+ demons to him, make him hop, and insult him for his lack of curses at level 138. Clearly Turmoil prevails over Piety and Eagle Eye at Td's, not to mention he has a Steel Titan doing most of the range damage anyway. Also, he needs to learn to switch, because whips don't hit good against melee prayer (I know the demon might have just switched...but hey, I'm making an insult story here, go with it :wink: ). Uhhh...that's me your talking about :( but I was typing something I crossed out so I don't get in trouble for censor evasion so didnt switch right away. And I'm aware turm> pieity but I don't have it yet. I wasn't directing any of that towards you lol, I hate crashers just as much as the next guy. Luckily, I have every tool at my disposal needed to anti them. But regardless, I meant none of that towards you, just saying what you should have done to him. :^_^: What he means was that he was the one with lack of curses and using a whip against melee prayer, I think Yeah, I edited my posts to show my ignorance and how bad I feel....Wow, I'm an [cabbage]-hole. Its okay i figured you didn't mean what it read as no hard feelings :shades: and grats Championfurydelta :thumbup: