JohnTheCop

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Check it out completely redid the look of the guide

Its a good idea but 3 1/2 paragraphs isnt a guide you should have put it in the new content section probably

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While most people hate cannoners here you should still put in how to cannon them as it is a viable method to make 800k+ an hour here

haha since i didnt know that the 4.5 and 4.6 xp's were 100% correct its good to hear that they are from another source, Thanks and goodluck in getting a patriarch in the future

Good idea ill mention that they are a slayer monster in the info section along with putting in the slayer helm it would greatly help during tasks for slayers. Thanks for the compliments its always good to hear peoples perspective on it.

in my guide i put that if you can mine them they should be

Thanks cookmeplox i added all your changed and fixed up some other stuff in my guide, gave you credit to the fixes

bout that

k got it i was thinking bout that.

that would be great buy how would you do it?

That all depends on what you want in a training spot, mining them will give you up to 600k an hour just off mining them but it will also slightly cut into you xp/h for the stat you are training, if you have 73 mining i would highly suggest you mine them i do need to put this inmy guide but im a bit low on time atm

I made some much overdue changes everyone, let me know if i forgot something :D

thanks for your ideas im actually in the middle of redoing parts or the guide that were flawed, while chaotic weapons may be nice here that overkill also i mean for the recharge rate these are mostly only used for pking that i know of but i get some chills when i think of the xp rate :mrgreen: supriseingly enough right when u were posting this i put a little section about having v skirt for offensive prays :P while i think there a little overkill if you would be useing ee/sgs and bunyips id prefer using non degrading armour considering how easily a bunyip heals you to full even when whereing rune as i tested this to prove it to a freind ill look into your beserker curse thoughts it sounds good but i want to make sure is a signifficant boost of xp

i cant think of one place where i blatently said in my guide they were better, unless you are thinking of the title where i stated it as a question for you to answer yourself (retoricaly) i myself do think they are better but i am not trying to change minds just giving a different outlook or at least make me not lonely down there :P aiel, if u read the bottom of my guide i do give credit to all who help me change my guide for the better youve been a great help i dont see how i couldnt give credit :mrgreen:

hmm mind if i quote that it my guide?

revamped guide

thanks for the advice

that brings alot to my attention thank you for that but some things are wrong - because they are weak to crush ss out performs whip even with a rune defender I doubt it, I achive nearly 100% accuracy on task with a whip+rune defender+piety, also remove the gs pics entirely, godswords are terrible for training anywhere - obby shield > rune defender because you want to be able to stay there longer] they are extremely inaccurate, the defense does not justify the loss of +20 slash attack -i agree bunyips are better but i see unicorns down their alot and they are a viable healing method unicorns are massive overkill here, I dont bring food or EE here on slayer tasks and am always full hp -i left the rings up to them because everyone prefers different things such as life or wealth or a tele ring. that doesnt justify not showing it -i didnt know that strikers only attacked with range when ur outside of melle thank you for that. -i will work on including overloads/extremes and turmoil/piety/ soulsplit i havent had much time lately so when i get around to it. - i wrote my guide on customizeing you own setup that works for you so i didnt nesisarily put in the best for everything in my picks because i dont use the best i use what i like useing as everyone should. can you veryify for sure that they give more xp damage maybe an exert from jaqex? i would be happy to put some of these in there. theres a thread with extensive research somewhere, it might be in general guides thanks you were very informitive for me on task I get up to 140k xp p/h here, they will not beat AZ's unless you piety and pay attention/cannon, but there still very good. i do need to more extensively include the whip into my guide for attack and defence training. i wont take out the unicorn section because then people will wonder. i will test the rune def/ obby shield debate we have going the godswords will stay because i made this about customizing your own way not useing a strict plan to kill them and i used a gs here it works just fine

Thats not a valid argument...Thats like saying a Dragon dagger is better than a Bronze Scimitar, so daggers are better. You can't say "Well we are going to count the loss from pots/summons for Azombies, but it doesn't matter for Living Rock Caverns". Secondly, a super set will last you a good 10 min. A single dose of a prayer potion or shark lasts...maybe 30 seconds to1 min. Also, summons are not used for Azombies at the altar spot. Testing is good, but solid theory is better. If you know all the variables, it is better to simply state the facts rather then test for 20-30 hours to ensure the data is good enough. There is absolutely no proof of any sort why they would be better, hence nothing to test. And stop posting sentences in different posts. There is a edit button for a reason. you said data is more proof than testing thats bull testing it prooves something have numbers doesnt proove anything only that you can type on your key board, also i have now been informed that these do indeed give 5.2xp per 10 damage compared to the traditional 4 xp per 10 damage wich further suports me

yeah that probably true ill fix that quick

as for the grammer ill worry about it when my guide is finished as it isnt yet

these are great money if you mine them but i didnt write this guide on money i wrote it on xp :P though you do make a good point that i need to include that somewhere, it does add up quickly

good ideas ill get right on the best spot to fight them, im sorry about this but i cant do a vid as i dont have the equipment :(