really? maybe when your 80 and your quality of life is shot, i can see that to be fair.. i dunno at the moment thought its like.woah. theres been a few people close to me die in accidents lately and i dunno its heavy. When I'm 80 and my quality of life is shot I would definitely welcome death. The reason why I fell so comfortable with death is because I personally believe that you can't know what happens once you die. I treat death as more of a mystery instead of a great sadness. 80? That's nothing. It depends on how well you take care of your body during your life. My grandmother walked about 30min each day and took care of her own garden (don't know sq'm, but around 1400 or so) when she was 80. And she was as quick in the head like anybody else. So there's no reason why your life would be doomed when you're 80. i personally smoke and drink like there's no tomorrow tho :mrgreen: it is true though, mny grans similar - 78 or so and she still bikes 12km a day. thats what i want to be like. but some people get unlucky, i think some peoples brains will start dying around that age. and sometime have weaker immune systems or whatever. ya my grandfather died of Alztiemers my grandmother/grandfather died of cancer and my last remaining grandmother is starting to go blind. All of them were around 80, but what meant about welcoming death would be really when i could not do the things that i enjoyed anymore.