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I'm obviously not the best keyer but im the opposite to you. Im very good at moving the gt through gd's but always get mixed up with who gated what door and what specific keys are there :P so lets do more floors together wingmanning/keying haha :P anyway the trick to fast keying as far as i can tell is simply to keep the gt moving whenever u can, have the next gd marked/gated and ready to go. everything will fall into place eventually, always does for me :) try not to personally gate a key door unless you're sure its coming soon or theres nothing else to really gate. Then the next thing is knowing when to tell the team to do what.. also try not to pick up herbs but say, 'loot magebane' or whatever. Also let other people carry the gt occasionally whilst you obviously find and follow other paths If its 1 wayed it doesnt matter not much you can do my average is like 26-30minutes mainly because i key abandons these days (and new people/learners are common there) so I'd hope im getting better :)

Does someone not letting me join their floors where they key count as discrimination? just curious.. idm myself but just saying... theres someone that wont take me because of my hex only weapon bind.

sorry quyneax maybe i was confusing black demons with dark beasts. Yeah i used to always have like 10mins left on my unicorn after a very large black demons task, i think if i counted in doses less then 3 overloads. anyways i doubt he can get anything near 120 crimsons per hour lol... but yeah proper luring means cannon hits about 3-6 times per spin on your black demon.

I automatically assumed dgs was right when i first heard that... So dont think I didnt think it through. And idk how high your skills are to sympathise with me but i'm often made to solo the odd room... and i can definitely see the benefits of a platebody. See, i think that the multiple seconds or minutes you save in not taking so much damage/dieing having to gs tele back etc, not to mention the higher exp you get per floor due to less deaths is better then the 20seconds max total dungeon time u save for hitting slightly better or whatever the bloodnecklace is best for.. ofcourse if you suicide on purpose like smellysocks thats different, but he has full primal, i think he's just lazy with praying magic dgs got me interested in efficiency, and to be honest whether you're looking at average dungeon speed efficiency or total dungeoneering exp per hour efficiency, platebody is better if you're going to be running through horrible rooms. Now thats factual evidence, and hence why i said if you're expected to do more skill rooms that platebody is better. now I feel like a nerd lol, getting technical about a game... lol ttyl.

Hey I used to think blood necklace was better then platebody. Then after a friend told me that plate was considered better by most 120+ dg'ers I thought about it. A few dungeons later whilst dieing twice in an attempt to do a rc puzzle (this is having a few salve eelse the first time) because of magers and rangers as well as taking very very very harsh damage doing other various rooms and simply running through others... I thought that platebody is actually better then bloodnecklace, if your skills are high at least. imo if you're likely to do alot of skill rooms or puzzle rooms,plate is better then nearly anything else.

I cant believe noone told you to do greaters yet. Your stats are perfect for them. and you'll be using whip as a weapon anyway... so you'll literally be risking nothing in the forinthry dungeon. I think even if you have very bad luck with random pkers u can expect to average 100crimsons/hour there. assuming u never see a pker ever, you can get about 180crimsons/hour they're amazing, u just keep topping the cannon and hit the demons. And pkers are pretty rare there. you're not limited by not having extremes there too. i think at your levels black demons are about 70-80 crimsons/hour just to compare. I used to overload and cannon and turmoil my black demon tasks and I used to kill a maxed task (about 242) in just about 1 unicorn (I think 54 minutes), this is with close to maxed stats i could only just pull of the >100 crimsons an hour and with slayer helmet :P

This is how i see it: 90 or 99 Attack As high as possible Strength 90 Defense (to wear armour drops) As high as possible Hitpoints n/a for ranged, except to wear leather armour 95 Prayer (Turmoil) 95 Magic (Fire Surge, Vengeance Group) 91 Summoning (Sachem Bloodrager) _ _ _ 80 Runecrafting for surgebox+firestaff 75 Construction (Base Altar) 96/99 Herblore 90 Thieving (Highest chest) 89/79 Crafting (because most people r in that level range, any lower and goodluck finding dinos) About 85+fletching (84 for entgallow trap) As high as possible slayer 80+ hunter 90 Mining (Promethium Ore) 50 Smithing (Zephyrium Bar) 1 Fishing (Raw Cave Moray) 1 Cooking (Cave Moray) 1 Firemaking 80+ Woodcutting (entgallow appears commonly because most people have the level to make it appear) 84 Farming edit: lol out of those skills i just need herblore or theiving

no just a wolpertinger with scrolls (scroll up every time u lose 1 or 2 magic levels below maximum) if its a task of >150 u may or may not need a summoning potion and another pouch. inventory is surge runes, wrench, slayer ring, cannon parts, other and the rest is prayer pots. ur tele to a bank should be ring of wealth

Lol sorry for the (actually) 32 minute floor lol... my mistake of not writing down doors combined with some one wayed moments :x ill bump my typical floor to 25mins hopefully :)

thats my third floor (2nd abandoned) and 2nd keyed floor since hexbow! my first abandoned was 2 or 3 minutes better, with 1 death and +13% on bonus rooms!!! but i forgot to screen shot charliebrown can vouch for me also i had a pretty slow team, only charlie was an awesome wingman so saved some time by himself btw i love hexbow, both bosses were easy as! btw last missed door was a guaranteed dead end.. which needed a nats pot and they ended before it was complete, the nats pot was ready lol (lol fail..)

Do u want me to take a photo of the end of every dungeon i do up to 100? helps u get data on just how bad/good having nothing but a hexbow and surges is :) because im pretty sure it only slows u down a minute or two at most at the start, but if theres no other bows, it helps speed up the magic bosses heaps. also do I got the record for earliest hex in dgs? at 92 dungeoneering

thatsmy first floor after hexhunter lol. boss was so easy (nightgazer) sorry xpx... but i shall work on 100 dg obv :P and im not leeching if im mageing and ranging right?

THANKS DGS *thumbs up*

Wow thanks for fast reply, um i just tried entering the clan chat in game and it was empty, is it because i have awkward timezones? Also i may dungeon at very random times! is that ok with the cc? Because to do a dungeon i need to dedicate a whole hour or so without breaks so yeah.. doesnt happen much

Hi how can i Join this clan? I have 86 dungeoneering and a very bad luck with hoods! I'm 134 combat (at the moment) 95 prayer and 99 summoning and 95 herblore edit: I also have 98 slayer ABOUT to be 99 so i can help with hexhunters really soon! also i have most skills at 80+ construction is my only skill under (its 74 i think) THANKS!