I give bouth 4/10. To me there is not enough contrast in both sigs, its just all blue in blue and to much noisy parts. At a first glance your first sig looks like there are the classical gif palette artefacts. Add some antialiasing to the second sig, especially the font. And generally, I am no big fan of sigs using renders, and the abstract part is mostly too abstract for me :lol: @kingofduke: Hot_Hot_Heat asked for a rating of the sig and thats what Godslayer did, no need to flame him for his rating.