@ Scotaidh "Why play a MMORPG sandbox game in the first place if you cannot devote the time to a character that they require? Why not just play those "faster" type games instead?" Hmmmmm I really don't know, most people I know only play Call of duty, GTA, and WOW (Wow more or less now). :unsure: @ Sona "Also, as bad as the P2P bots are, I think the F2P players have it a lot worse. I guess there is something that we could be thankful for?" You do realize the sheer amount of bots in lumbridge pretty much makes it impossable for a noob f2per to get started in the game? @Blyaunte Well I dunno about you but I find the mass numbers of automated characters, all of whom are now occupying all of the primary and secondary training/earning spaces to the point that every such spot, on every world, is now so thoroughly saturated with them that it has become positively fruitless to even attempt to use said spots, absolutely annoying. Personally, I don't care WHY they're there, anymore. I just want them gone. We've tried reporting them and were ignored. We've tried competing with them and were overwhelmed. We've tried killing them (where places allowed) and were assaulted by their in-game protectors. We've tried complaining about them to management and have been ignored (again). What's left to do? Riot? *quickly throws "down with bots" sign into corner* Oh I don't know... :-w And I didn't know they had ingame protectors, I thought that guys was a jerk trying to get my whip! Well... who wants to go pking. :shades: