Well what other possible reason could rank chasing have other than respect from other players? It's not like there's something intrinsically valuable about the number 200M. People do it because they recognize that within the realm of Runescape it has social prestige and value. So, yes, I do think a lot of players are playing for prestige, fame, validation and what not - though I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Nor am I bothered by spin buying enough to shame particular individuals who do it. We are social creatures at the end of the day. Getting 200Ms was not a 'thing' in the game until certain famous people started doing it and the metagame shifted. People did not randomly just wake up one day and decide "I am going to get a 200M, just for me". And I quite agree. If you're serious about competing and getting 200Ms, you'd better be prepared to do everything in your power to get it (within the bounds of the rules). You'd be a fool not use resources if you have them that could make it easier. I don't mind Forsberg at all. He had a lot of money and resources, and he used them to ensure he had to put in less effort, have a better time, get things done faster. Not bothered by that at all. And how many players actually go for 200M all because they enjoy it all? Perhaps they enjoy certain skills, but all of it? No way. They do it for the end goal - which is competition, prestige, recognition and so forth. Most skills require a fair bit of grinding, and are by and large not fun, and getting 200M in them requires intense discipline and subjecting yourself to boredom and grinding. People do it for the social reasons, not because they derive 'fun' by chopping Crystal trees for hundreds and thousands of hours. It's idealistic and ahistorical to suggest that people got 200Ms just for fun. Perhaps some do (because of their particular idiosyncrasies as individuals) but most do it for social reasons. Uhm......