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I think he just doesnt care how fast he goes and he isnt even fletching while doing thief at all and he just fletches to afk like licert says, he doesnt care how fast he goes because if he goes faster he still has to wait for farm

its not very respectful calling us people "trolls" for having different opinions. I have never shown disrespect towards anothers opinion, just countered it. while you just call us trolls and want to ignore us.

Its all the spins.

If you think discussing hours to 200m all for a few people, going 3 days without anyone posting, then another question about hours is the only thing relevant to 200m all then get off this thread. There isnt any topic that wont cause debate these days because everything the top page does is controversial. What is your idea of a good conversation about the race to 200m all? I find this discussion more entertaining/relevant than when the thread goes days without anyone posting because theres nothing to talk about.

If he's 17 now then nice highschool dropout for 18 hr rs days

It's a race to 200m all, anyone that high up in the ranks would and is doing it.You'd do it too, jagex shouldn't be releasing all this free exp bul[bleep]shitass in our faces in general. How many hours of sc/spins did Jake do. Too bad host fors is probably going to keep rcing on 07 so he can get enough cash to spin to 200m invention. Yeah that's a good competition... Who can spin for 20-22 hr days to 200m invention first. Its not fair when the actual rank 1 who could outplay these guys can't compete because of spins

His fault that he uses the methods not jagexs

Wolf said "Only 400 hours saved, cool Seems like he avged 233k xp/hr for almost 23k hours :o + his 2007 acc is pretty nice lol, rank 8 rc. " I made an assumption that host fors was claiming that was all the time he saved.

Im not comparing how much was saved vs suomis methods. Im adding the other hours based on methods which i consider cheating. it would be + another 5-6k hours if i compared it to what suomi had to do..... warbands=cheating sh=cheating sc alt glitch=cheating spins=cheating 07=cheating. Notice i didnt include slayer.

Only 400 hours saved, cool Seems like he avged 233k xp/hr for almost 23k hours :o + his 2007 acc is pretty nice lol, rank 8 rc Interesting :o I thought he would have more gp than that and bought more keys + played more than 18 hours a day by the way his gains looked. Respect to him regardless of the way he got his money. He's a really nice guy too. It does cost more, hes a liar. Why would he lie and then go onto admit he uses alts for wbs, 07 etc? I don't think he has any reason to lie, if you look at his gains it doesn't show like he would have, anyway. http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1lj0yc/what_are_some_of_your_unethical_lifehacks_nsfw/cbzqiva?context=3 Yes, I know it's possibly something like that but I doubt it, 400 hours saved is still a lot and I don't think he would have lied about that, but if so I don't really care because anyone else would have done it too compare suomi to forsberg888 lets see, suomi had to do mining. forsberg didnt, suomi didnt have bonus xp for woodcutting or fishing, forsberg did, suomi had to do agility at barb advanced, forsberg didnt, Forsberg got to do slayer at about double what suomi got. Neither had to make any money using any large amount of effort. Yup, Forsberg only saved 400 hours by doing the stuff he did. silverhawks saved over 1500 hours alone, sc abuse saved 300+ hours. warbands saved 600 hours. refer a friend+avas saved another 1000+ hours. and the 400 hours saved for spinning. No clue how much was saved from 07 because idk how he would have made his gp without it. I wont include the slayer because obviously slayer rates being nearly doubled isnt his fault but the 400 hour number is way off. You have the choice to avoid these overpowered methods and obviously he chose not to, now hes just lying about it trying to make himself seem good. Drumgun is the best runescape player to ever play. Forsberg will be last place next to geel and itrolledu for anyone to get 200m all. Who knows if itrolledu will even get 200m all anyway. probably not.

Get banned for a bug that is 5x the xp/h in a 1m xp/h skill. And get nothing for abusing a sc bug for 2 weeks which was 4x the xp/h in skills ment to only get 100k xp/h max.

Yes lets all abuse a fast prayer method because 1m prayer xp/h isnt fast enough already.

jagex just knows the game has been made so easy that 99 is nothing.

So discussing the role of a psychologist is on topic (i think thats what's being talked about i dont have 5 hours to read all these long boring posts), but discussing spins is off topic/people who talk about them should be flamed and told they are wrong and off topic and should be banned. kk.

Why does it matter how people spend their spare time, weather it's hanging out with friends doing pointless stuff, learning new math (lol because There are so many jobs for people with math degrees) Learning to play an instrument, learning how to program,or drawing. You are still doing almost nothing that benefits society by doing the list of stuff i just said. Spending 8 hours hanging out with friends is the same benefit to society as playing a video game is. Unless you are finding the cure for cancer it doesn't matter how your time is spent.

dg herbs grow in 1 min.

If you play a game to get 200m all because you "enjoy" it, then you wouldn't try to take the quick ways out. If the only reason you're playing is to get 200m all and not enjoy it then your playing for the wrong reasons.

Well Jagex has nerfed legacy to make sure it becomes dead content quicker, Jagex likes dead content. So if it was ever worth using before which it wasn't, it definitily isn't now.

w00t, Now i can't wait to see who the real person to be second to 200m all is! Jake I think.

You think alkan, who fishes rocktails, can compete with someone like dragonseance? Sorry after furthur investigation dragonseance's gains are just as bad. guess he only plays 2 hrs a day.

Cheating is not a subjective term. It is not up to you or me to decide what constitutes cheating. It's up to Jagex, and their position on this is clear. Just like 'legality' is not what I think it should be, but rather what the state or the courts decide it to be. Jagex is the only person to be held accountable in this scenario. They have ultimate power over RS, and they control the supply (the most important element). We may all want to buy spins, but no one can until Jagex decides to provide that to us. They're the ones who put that system in place. Blame the system, not this or that individual who just happens to be using it to his/her advantage. LOL As if buying spins wasn't enough "Gain XP at all costs" should be his motto. That's the motto of every single top page player, and the motto for most of the high level community. Nothing shocking there. No need to single out Forsberg in particular. He's simply using every resource at his disposal, which is what everyone does. 'Top page players' dish out money like spinberg and dish out more money on alts for exp boosts? He wouldn't even be the discussion of this thread if he never bought those spins to get him where he is now, who else can I single out? Post some usernames/screenshots like guy0ne has because I don't believe that this is normal or spread out through all top players. Didn't ITrolledU just spend 4.5B on bonds for spins during Prismania, the opening of which he streamed live, and through which he was able to get most of the bonus experience needed for 200M Divination or something? Where's your hate for him? This outrage over top players is totally irrelevant. Everyone has different resources which they use to their advantage. Drumgun, by his own admission plays 17+ hours a day, so he has plenty of time. He uses that to his advantage. Is that fair to people who have to balance RS with school, possibly work, and other stuff? Forsberg has plenty of money, so he uses that to his advantage. ITrolledU has a decent bit of time, lots of money made from PVM, so much so that he can afford to buy the fastest and most expensive methods for any skills, and a lot of Twitch followers/his own clan that helped him with KK for slayer and tagging other tasks at times. ITrolledU even made his own clan so that he could always have an avatar for slayer (something which wasn't allowed in his previous clan). Is that fair to people who don't have those resources? Life is not fair. This moral outrage over players is totally phoney. Extreme competition by definition means that people will use every card in their sleeve to get ahead. Forsberg is not some outlier or extreme offender. I dislike itrolledu as much as forsberg888, he's just as bad and mabye even worse. But not even itrolledu used an alt to hold the avatar while he was doing glacors with his familiar which picks things up. He just went to the world that clanmates had it on for 3% lol. Forsberg is too desperate seems he cant handle the grind. and i focus on Forsberg888 because he is rank 2. itrolledu isn't even going to be top 5 or 10 to 200m all. focus on him later Is that really what this boils down to? That Forsberg is having an alt hold an avatar? That's it? Plenty of clans have alts which hold avatars, especially during this month because of rhinos (no one wants to hold avatars because the rhino gives 10%, as opposed to the avatar's 6%), so a lot of clans are allowing alts in to hold avatars. As long as Forsberg's clan is okay with it, there's nothing wrong with the situation. What are you going to do? Cook up some moral calculus or checklist where you list all their activities, and give them points, and decide who is worse? Well ITrolledU did X, Y, and Z, but Forsberg did X, Y, Z, and that other thing, so I guess he's worse. It's silly to think like that. Have you followed this thread over the past month you would see everything that is wrong with Forsberg if you did, its not all about an extra 3% xp l0l. And forsberg is worse because of the dice. If forsberg didn't dice then itrolledu would be worse because of his kk slayer.

Dw as i watch people get 200m all i will make sure to show my dislike towards each of them besides jake. Geel is next i think. #dice

LOL As if buying spins wasn't enough "Gain XP at all costs" should be his motto. That's the motto of every single top page player, and the motto for most of the high level community. Nothing shocking there. No need to single out Forsberg in particular. He's simply using every resource at his disposal, which is what everyone does. 'Top page players' dish out money like spinberg and dish out more money on alts for exp boosts? He wouldn't even be the discussion of this thread if he never bought those spins to get him where he is now, who else can I single out? Post some usernames/screenshots like guy0ne has because I don't believe that this is normal or spread out through all top players. Didn't ITrolledU just spend 4.5B on bonds for spins during Prismania, the opening of which he streamed live, and through which he was able to get most of the bonus experience needed for 200M Divination or something? Where's your hate for him? This outrage over top players is totally irrelevant. Everyone has different resources which they use to their advantage. Drumgun, by his own admission plays 17+ hours a day, so he has plenty of time. He uses that to his advantage. Is that fair to people who have to balance RS with school, possibly work, and other stuff? Forsberg has plenty of money, so he uses that to his advantage. ITrolledU has a decent bit of time, lots of money made from PVM, so much so that he can afford to buy the fastest and most expensive methods for any skills, and a lot of Twitch followers/his own clan that helped him with KK for slayer and tagging other tasks at times. ITrolledU even made his own clan so that he could always have an avatar for slayer (something which wasn't allowed in his previous clan). Is that fair to people who don't have those resources? Life is not fair. This moral outrage over players is totally phoney. Extreme competition by definition means that people will use every card in their sleeve to get ahead. Forsberg is not some outlier or extreme offender. I dislike itrolledu as much as forsberg888, he's just as bad and mabye even worse. But not even itrolledu used an alt to hold the avatar while he was doing glacors with his familiar which picks things up. He just went to the world that clanmates had it on for 3% lol. Forsberg is too desperate seems he cant handle the grind. and i focus on Forsberg888 because he is rank 2. itrolledu isn't even going to be top 5 or 10 to 200m all. focus on him later

Efficiency has changed a lot since the times zarfot was around, back then it was who could click faster for longer periods of time. Now its who can make an alt quicker and buy 2 bonds and get back to playing 18 hour days with their 126% xp boosts.

With rhino+raf+3% avatar+silverhawk+bxp u can probably get a 4.8m in 30 hours EDIT- as someone who works for the varrock press herald i was able to quickly track down mr forsberg888 using my sources and I can confirm forsberg888 is at barb. Using an alt to hold his avatar lmfa0