lol, thanks :P heh, i'm getting this realy cool result out of my render. Kind of like an earthy type of abby :) Hope it works out :) EDIT: well maybe, wasn't too fond of the earth one :D We will see! :P sounds cool, im gettin some good inspiration from your current siggy, maby i'll do something more.. techy than usual. Looking forward to this abby, though its kinda late.. 1:30AM.. im off to bed. I'll check yoo out in the morning and see what progress you's have made :wink: