I found the Times article a most interesting read. I agree that most of the latest content seems aimed at the young teen audience but also feel that there is still much for the more mature players as well. For those of you who don't understand or care about business models, please don't disrespect the editor for this article. I think He/She is right that Jagex is at that ungainly stage traversing between the small initmate game and corporatehood. There are aspects of the game that I don't like, but, I have the choice to stay away from those areas / parts that annoy me. IMO Runescape is about patience and persistance. You can't get to the high levels without putting in some serious time and effort. Those players who don't have the attention span to do this will come and go. Those who have the maturity and forsight to "stay the course" will continue to gain higher levels in the game. As a higher level player myself and somewhat more mature player (I am 40+ years old) I get amused by the less mature players and spend time helping them to understand that only the crazy people give away what they worked for. I try to get them to understand that they have to put in some real work for what they get. Jagex understood this when the game first came out. But in order to keep interest in the game they have started adding mini-games / mini-Quests some of which I like, some I don't but they are part of the whole and again I have the choice to play them or not. I realize this is a long post especially for someone with as small a post count as mine but I haven't felt the need to post anything much on these forums that could or would help expand Tip.its information base.