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Umbra- 5

Jen finds her way out.

Ok ready when people are.

The map on the front page doesn't include india.... =D>

Yeah, I will try to finish up on Hegemony.

I was moderator...remember....I was allowed to, you were not.

Sere: Only if no one tried to stop them.... Which is true of group moderation too...I could annex the UK, if no one stopped me.

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Hence the reason why Sere didn't want an influence system.... :thumbdown:

Scandinavia gives Switzerland 100 Tonnes of Gold, meaning that Scandinavia now has 103 Tonnes of Gold, while Switzerland has 790. Switzerland begins sharing particle acclerator research with Scandinavia.

Ico- There is no influence system.... If there were then Retech would have 12% or something...

Everyone can vote...its group moderation. Either you or Ross or no one gets control over Indonesia and can decide the scale on which annexure or whatever takes place.

I call the vote 'Does Ross or Retech control Indonesia?' If no decision is made by this time tommrow then Indonesia is hostile to both nations. I vote Retech. 1/0

The Ayrans were never allowed Doom, so feel free to ignore them.

Probably.

Does anyone have anything we can vote on?

Shall we just play the game and moderate when required...rather than trying to build a system that no one is going to accept by this time tommrow...

Europe is so much more civialised...None of these squabbling barbarians :rolleyes:

Papau New Guinea is controlled by Penguin I think....

Dusty...You just annexed(or took control when it annexed you) of a country with an army...so logically you have an army again.

Sere...Let me try to explain this to you(sorry if it sounds patronising) 50 people have 0 money. Someone invents money and says 'Hey listen, I will give everyone 100 coins, and at the end of the year you pay me back, plus 5% because obviously I want to make money out of it.' People go yeah, and some people make some money and some people lose some money, and so at the end of the year some people are in debt and some people have made a profit....The people who are in debt need to borrow more money and the people who made a profit have a harder market because everyone who lost money is less willing to buy....So eventually everyone works at a loss. Now that is not conducive to capitalism...It doesn't work if everyone makes a loss, so credit comes along and so people can buy stuff on credit, so people start making a profit again....But. Year 1 - 50,000 Gold, 50,000 Debt. Year 2 - 50,000 Gold, 52,500 Debt Year 3 - 50,000 Gold, 55,125 Debt And so on and so forth. Thus the Gold Standard fails and we move to an even bigger form of deficit financing known as Speculative Financing...Where people spend money they don't have on the promise of making a profit... The system just spirals. You can't get out of it unless you default on the debt, which would destroy the Dollar.

Sere....It is getting larger and will keep getting larger. You CAN NEVER repay it. We did say earlier.

Sere- It would never be able to repay it...You have a debt 70 times larger than your ability to repay, and all the time it is getting larger and larger. The only way to stop it is to go back to the Gold standard and lose 69/70ths of your money....Which would destroy the US Dollar, and bring your country tumbling down....Leave it and it will just get worse.

Retech- Yes it still counts as a country...

Ross...there is no way to stop that. War needs a moderator...otherwise it is just war by majority and the world is carved up like that...