he knows that, he just wants to make an image smaller and to edit it on paint. or in photoshop. wateva. _____________________________________________________________ first up, you can get the image then go to *image-image size. set the bar to percent not pixels and reduce it to the size u want. WEll you could do it in pixels, but i find it easier in percent. When in persent, go to type in %50 or %25 depending on the size, you can trace it over in photoshop using the 1px brush, then edit it in pain from there onwards. _____________________________________________________________ Or u can hold down *ctr-t and change it from there. u can also use the percent thing in that 2. _____________________________________________________________ anyway, it's up 2 u. hope i helped. ~nuzza