I want to get my third cape but i only have little more than 20m to spend, so i have question, does it only cost 21m to buy iron bars and smith iron knives to get 99 smithing? or do i have to smelt the ores to? becourse i hate smelting=) And 50m to craft green bodies, is it including selling the bodies and buy new d hides all the time? i hope u can understand what i mean, not that good in eng:) ty Yep, I understand. The 21m figure for smithing is buying bars and selling knives. The 50m for green bodies is buying leathers and selling bodies. You could tan your own hides, but the true cost is 50m (there's an implicit opportunity cost of using leathers you tanned equal to their sale value). Okej, cool:) then i think my next cape will be a smithing cape then:) thnx