hey i havent cheated but i have great respect for these people with great skills creating cheating programs not the java botters or abusers, also i think its kinda funny that people keep slagging these cheaters, i personally think they are jealous just because they arent as inteligent as these skilled people, also im not sure if this is right but theres no point in IP banning, unless you use dial up or have your own IP, most people use DSL (broadband) and you just get assigned a IP each time you connect to the internet which is hardly ever the same the next time you connect, also this technique of random IP banning could stop potential new players from playing the game because they could be assigned a banned IP before they even try to play the game! (if im wrong about this whole IP assigning thing please correct me), oh and lord kain please stop talking i feel embarassed for you each time i seen you post, your just digging a bigger hole, and i would really prefer to see a interview of these cheaters offering to interview not this one of amatuer cheater