kidsman99

Your arrogance and stubbornness are so strongly present in all of your posts, it really doesnt have much use to continue arguing on this topic as you're not even thinking about changing your attitude about the matter. It tires me and frustrates me, and I really can't use that during my exam period so I'm going to end here. You feel the Time dedication is enough dedication already, but you fail to see the point of social interaction in this game, and that shocks me. But yea, I am off, as I said already, so have fun loafing in Castle Wars as I dont think anyone here on this topic will ever change your mind.

This was my point - just because they can do anything they want doesn't mean that they always make the right decisions. You don't appear to have a problem with Jagex doing whatever the hell they want, so why then are you so interested in how I play Castle Wars? Because Jagex isn't working in a team, and you are. You take advantage (not tickets, but the games) of others staying there and waste their time. As much as you expect them to stay there until the end of the game, they expect you to participate, yet you don't. Certainly, if they wish to act on this, then they are free to do so. Have you ever heard of emergent gameplay? There's plenty of it in RS, and ultimately, Jagex's "intentions" mean very little. Not everything goes according to their plans. Concerning how I'm supposedly taking the easy way out on earning the Comp (t), I strongly disagree with you. It may be the "completionist" cape, but that doesn't mean that everyone who wants one should be forced to meet all of the requirements the hard way. Plenty of people take short-cuts (not through macroing or breaking the rules...) to level skills faster or more efficiently; should they be criticised for "taking the easy way out" as well? Whether or not players decide to loaf at Castle Wars for the requirement shouldn't (and doesn't) matter, as they'll have to dedicate the same amount of ingame time regardless.[/Quote] I dont criticise them simply because they at least put SOME effort in, opposed to your loafing. What? How is my opinion on what the Castle Wars requirement should be in any way "hypothetical"? That isn't what the word means. And what "hard cases" am I avoiding, exactly? I don't understand what you mean by that.[/Quote] looking over the whole topic, as soon as you get something which sound correct to almost anyone, you counter by calling it irrelevant instead of thinking what the other person is trying to say with the examples given. In general, I consider your ideas to be selfish, and see that you take other people who take this game seriously as a joke and laugh away the comments they make about disagreeing with you. If you really were to have the same mindset in real life as you have ingame, I doubt you will achieve much. And if you say you don't have the same mindset in real life, I wonder what's the difference (without the 'it's just a game' argument, as I'm refering to social interaction with others here.) --------------------

[/hide]You're saying I should be grateful to Jagex for deciding to "only" require 5000 Castle Wars games, since they could have made the requirement much more difficult...? No disrespect intended, but that is a terrible argument if I've ever seen one. I hope I'm misinterpreting your meaning, and please correct me if I am. :blink: Let's do a bit of math: 5000 games multiplied by 25 minutes per game = 125000 minutes or approximately 87 straight days spent playing Castle Wars. Is this not ridiculous? I don't believe most Skills even require that much time to be leveled from 1-99 by experienced players. After reading this, can you honestly tell me that requiring players to dedicate that much time to a single minigame is reasonable? And yet you say I should be grateful... It truly is funny in a depressing sort of way. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading your post, you strike me as the type of person who considers Jagex (as the game developer) to be infallible. You don't necessarily have to take my word for it, but that can't be farther from the truth. And to answer your question (at least in part), I believe requiring 500 games would have been ideal. Sorry, but I'm not interested in answering/arguing over hypothetical questions, so I've just given you my opinion on what the requirement should have been. -------------------- Im not saying Jagex is infallible, in fact, I am as far opposed from that as possible. I'm saying however, that Jagex is a monopolist about the game, and that they can do whatever the hell they want with it, including its content. They have made this game easier over the years simply to satisfy customers, even though they weren't required to do so. They could have made getting the Ccape much harder than they have now, but they didn't. You can say achieving the Ccape is somewhat like finishing the game, completing the game and being done with it. In some games, it's easy to complete the game, and in others (like MMORPGs) it's almost impossible. They give you an option to make you feel like you finished the game, and give it this requirement. Yet you take the easy way through to get to 'the end'. It's not the way Jagex wants to see you get to the end, and that you should keep in mind. Because if Jagex doesn't like the way we're playing the game, they're just a snap from a finger away to changing it all, making it even harder for us. That's the power they possess, and being gentle by giving you this opportunity as they are, I feel like you shouldnt abuse it to the max, as with it you abuse their trust on how you should be playing the game. And besides, you don't feel like answering/arguing over a hypothetical question, but you do want to make a hypothetical requirement, which can yet again been seen as something we could be arguing over. Makes me somewhat believe that you try to avoid hard cases and create easy ones simply for your own benefit, which shouldnt be the main issue here.

I have a question for the OP. If you were able to choose (which you aren't of course, but taken the thought that you were able to), would you prefer the requirement of the Ccape to be 'participating in 5k Castle wars games' or have it be, say, 'Win 2.5k Castle wars games'? In general, people will prefer option A, because less efford is required, only more time is required. You call option A an absurd requirement, but if Jagex had picked option B, the general crowd would have considered the requirement even more crazy, even though less time is required. You should be happy that Jagex has given you a requirement which is AFK-able, but don't take advantage by AFKing it fully. Put some effort in, show the creators of the minigame you are thankfull for the requirement being made relatively easy by playing the game it is supposed to be played, instead of finding the loopholes in any of the requirements or possibilities they give you. They make this game while having a view of how the game should be played, and playing the game by not playing the game is a disrespectful way of showing 'gratitude' to it's creators. They don't HAVE to do anything for you, they could quite possibly also just agree to get rid of the Ccape in a couple of months. If they do, they don't need to apologise about it either, because it's their game. It's all about giving and taking both equally, only that way we can keep everyone happy. Don't blame your loafing on somebody else's actions (in this case, blaming jagex for the requirement), but instead, play the game at least partially and be happy you aren't required to actually win, because that would make the requirement much much harder.

just found out that you need to have the slashed book from EW 1 in your inven to smith it.

i got the bars, now what do i do with them to make it into a body?

Got cut last on Tr's side. GF CL

Thanks for the fight NG, Thanks for the fight TR We did good Ng, sorry I couldnt be there because of football practise. Better luck next time my TR mates, sorry I wasnt there because of football practise ~Yea Idk what to type, I'm in both clans >.<

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Thats good, but what I need is proof of you agreeing that this war would be for TWR.

this is the best I have right now, the log of our conversation. If it isnt enough, I'm sure Gilly will post here.

Link to the declaration: We Did not set up the fight on the forums as a TWR, but decided at the end of the declaration it'd be a TWR fight. As we wanted to go PvP we decided not to post the rules on these forums to advoid crashers Winning clan (both name + initials): MoD Masters of Dragons Winning clan's member-list: http://runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=modrags Losing clan (both name + initials): Mori The Moriquendi Losing clan's member-list: http://runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=mori Starting/ending ops of both clans (screenshot is valid proof): The fight was planned to be pvp, but with all worlds being crowded at the time and Mori didnt want to go different bounds, we hopped to CWA. Thanks for the fight Mori, you're always a great clan to fight.

Yes starting was 8 people. I was pissed off to see my members getting koed in a 8vs8 but thats life i guess.

Link to the declaration: viewtopic.php?f=216&t=796555 Winning clan (both name + initials): Masters of Dragons + MoD Winning clan's member-list: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=modrags Losing clan (both name + initials): Lost Heaven Losing clan's member-list: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=antex123 Starting/ending ops of both clans (screenshot is valid proof): Starting: MoD: 23 LH: 16 Ending: MoD: 17 LH: 0 Both clans had pretty bad pulls because of summer most likely, but we went ahead and had a good time anyways. Warring is always fun, especially when you win, so thanks for the fun time we had LH! Hope you had some fun aswell at the least!

do it only to people who have "pure" in their name, so u know the guy's a pure and you're prepared for it. Like "Rival Pure" and other nicks.