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You sir, have little or no knowledge of the Christian faith. Right. Incest is a sin, yet we're all related according to the Bible. So you can't have intercourse apparently. We're born into origanol sin, thus we need to be baptised or whatever. Pretty sure that covers it. How are we all related? Can you show me the passage? Can you also show me the passage that states we have to committ no sins to enter heaven? Do you even know what baptism signifies?

You sir, have little or no knowledge of the Christian faith.

Would you please elaborate on that? i don't really understand it either. maybe pyro was reading the Mosiac ( i think) law or something and didn't understand what was written. but i doubt that's the case. Maybe... there's alot of stuff subject to ethical reflection (laws like "do not plant more than one crop in your field; if you or someone you know does, they are subject to death" are ridiculous because they can't possibly apply to our culture - this is why some people misinterpret the Bible)

So what you're saying is: Septochlyriomide produces a "ghost" in your mind --> you see a ghost. Therefore, all ghosts are produced by this hormone? I would say that from this evidence some ghosts might be a product of this, but there's no speaking for all ghosts.

Theres no reason to make unfounded - and what could be interpreted as a tad insulting - generalizations about those on this board who are Americans. It's not quite unfounded - just based on a couple years of seeing the same thing happening again and again ;). I didn't intend to generalise, but now I see how my post might have done that; I understand it is all in good fun, but it isn't unfounded...

I've never once seen a Canadian ask for a drop for Canada day, or some other nationality for their day... yet every year (or at least last year) there are multiple Americans asking for drops for them... I at least do not think that there are more Americans than others on these boards... I mean, they can't outnumber us that much can they? I just don't understand why it is only one country always asking...

Like.... not to be offensive or anything but I've actually lost respect for those with 500+ post counts (that aren't mods/admins that signed up a month or two earlier :P).

I call you a fool for calling me arrogant with no reason to. Now you have no reason to call me arrogant, and are doing nothing but saying meaningless crap. Please shut up. :D Unless you have something to say that has relevance to the topic, shut up. :D Using the ':D' in front of and behind the term 'shut up' does not make it any less harmful. Oh, and

What is your problem with this topic? Just stop posting on it...

True, but it is a fact based on an unrepresentative sample - taking the worst parts of something and applying it to the whole. "Some people use religion for evil, therefore all of religion is evil".

You didn't prove anything about God, and you didn't prove anything about the phrase 'nothing but'. I can say 'coffee is nothing but horrible tasting garbage'. I can then go on to prove how terrible it tastes, but it doesn't mean it is nothing but what I just proved it was. You also use phrases such as 'people who are stupid enough to believe this'... this is terrible reasoning. How would you like it if I said 'people who are idiotic enough to not believe in God are plain ignorant fools'. You'd probably not like it very much. Yet of course you are able to subtly flame all who believe in God why? It also holds absolutely no rational value whatsoever. Oh and if the words of others mean nothing, then how come you're posting on a forum?

This sums it up really well:

Correction, Your God, not everyone believes in your god. Jesus's death was hardly a sacrifice for an Omnipotent being, a sacrifice is to lose something, what did God/Jesus lose that he couldn't replace? The fact that Jesus constantly stated He was the Son of the Jewish God (Jehovah) should dispell any confusion here. A sacrifice isn't "to lose something", but rather The act of offering something to a deity in propitiation . Propitiation means taking away God's wrath, and this is what Jesus' death (the perfect sacrafice) does for those that have Him as their Saviour. So God offers himself to himself to take away his own wrath? If Jesus is God the offering part was redundant as God already had/is Jesus. So was the sacrifice just to finalise it, or just the blood sacrifice God so enjoys? That's a complex question - a logical fallacy. "or just the blood sacrifice God so enjoys?" is the same as me asking "when are you going to realise how wrong you are?" Both assume something to be true in the question. For years people had to offer animals of sacrifice to take away their sin. These animals were not perfect things, so they needed to be sacrificed each time. Jesus was the perfect sacrifice, he spent time in hell for dying for us. I have to go to work now else I would write more...

Erm, exactly, how could everything just appear? Creation is a big load of crap. Because the Bible obviously states how God created right? :roll:

Who knows but the human skull used to be larger ;).

thank you, Architect :roll: yes i do believe in God. simple as that. dont bother arguing with me I will no try to argue with you, each person is intitled to their own beliefs. While I have differnt beliefs I do not force them on others. Also, if you are trying to make it seem as though I merely said ergo because it was in a hit movie, you are sorely mistaken. Eh, just say therefore, we're all speaking English here not Latin ;).

Duke, have you ever heard of the concept of principle vs. application? For example, the principle of aerodynamics is applied to airplanes, correct? Now, if you look at two planes, and see that they are different, it would be absurd to conclude aerodynamics does not exist correct? The principle is just being applied differently. The same thing happens with a plane that cannot fly, the principle is still there, it is just being applied incorrectly. Just like God and religion. People may apply it the wrong way, but by no means does it imply that God does not exist.

Thy argument is illiogical naive squire. They believe that God was invented to give people power, and they misuse that power. Religion Invented ----> 'Superior' people rise -----> Superior people abuse their power. Our arguments are based on the perspective that religion is false, your counter-argument is based on that you think it is true. My counter-argument is based on that the whole religion thing is irrelevant to God's existence.

It doesn't matter if religions are wrong! Religions offer absolutely no proof that God exists! This is actually a logical fallacy known as straw man. You're attacking our weakest argument; ironically it's not even an argument. Here's what I see your argument as: People misuse religion --> religions say God exist --> God doesn't exist. I don't see the link between the second and third points. People misuse politics --> polititians say a countries budget exists--> budgets do not exist. ^^ Using your logic.

Wars are not started by religion or faith. They are started by evil people who pervert the teachings of their religions. I don't feel like writing a whole story about it, but just look at Iraq and the terrorism. People believe in things, that oppressing leaders tell them in the name of some religion. Just to misuse them for wrong things. Religions were already made up by wrong people to misuse people in the first place IMO. Iraq and terrorism is created through people misinterpreting their religion. And people misusing religion is completely irrelevant to God's existence.

The difference is of course that the professor could go and have a scan or similar procedure to prove he has a brain, whereas no one knows how to prove god exists. I think the point was that they were acting on faith. Or maybe it was what you said too. Anyways...

I see no explanation of the origin of life on that site. It says when they think it happened, and they say that they have fossils from that period, but they explain nothing. Another huge thing is that evolution doesn't disprove God's existence.

Ok I just saw the topic you created... If it's intelligent debating, what's wrong with it? If you don't like it, don't post on it, no one is forcing you to. In the topic you created you stated that it creates too many angry posts. It looks like the most angry post on this page is the one I'm quoting right here. Ironically it's the one with the most irrelevant contribution to the topic.

Agreed totally ;) ps. i hated my re teacher wouldn't it be fair to say the same about NOT believing in God, since it is higly likely that you came to this decision under the influence of someone or something other than yourself? If you dont believe that is your choice and I will never insult you for it, but don't call me gullible for believing. Spiritual beliefs are very personal and very individual. I will always respect your choice not to belive and you should extend me the same courtesy. 8) I would say it's unfair both ways. It's not gullible at all, since we don't know the truth. You can't prove it.

Let's not bring Christianity or the bible into this... it has little to do with the existence of God; you also cannot prove anything with it, as it would be considered circular reasoning. Edit: Welcome back Sonsie! :o