as i lay dying is perfect example of metalcore and so is it dies today, i like most of the bands u mentioned and as u said i do go to local shows and watch a lot of friend play, i myself play guitar got vocals and drummer friend only need a bass player and hello my band!! as for my bands that has a bit more core( ill mention some of the 1s u did as i listen to them too): underoath norma jean bury your dead cannibal corpse atreyu-just like 2 songs cuz theyr sort of emocore so it gets me a bit bored to be real... alexisonfire chiodos-like 3 or 4 songs, other r too emo black sabbath-father of metal thank them if u listen to them u would laugh like hey * this is like punk, well thats the 80s and 70s wonderful person same goes with KISS or AC DC which is hardrock the number 12 looks like u-started listening to them a few daysd ago itsd an ok band i guess judas priest- to be real i like all music that has a voice so ummm thin?? if thats how u call it in english comeback kid fear factore in flames from autumn to ashes-last CD SUCKED was so dam slow poison the well rammstein-german lol but not core actually... showbread the red chord i could know make a list of 70s music and 80s but this is core theme, theres also hard punk which there r only a few bands i could think of atm I know what you mean about the From Autumn To Ashes CD. It is very slow to their other stuff I've heard. What UnderOath do you listen to? Because if you listen to New UnderOath, you have to listen to old because it is so much better (Old si considered The Changing of Times and before that). If you've heard Atreyus new stuff, stuff that is coming out on their new CD in a few days, I believe they are going to become one of the next MTV products as they've become alot softer which totally blows. Been meaning to get a Comeback Kid CD FOREVER! I got them on a Victory reconrds CD from last years ToC and fell in love with them. The # 12, is so dang talented and technical. It may not sound like it but they are extremely talented. I haven't listened to alot of Norma Jean, I need to though, I've heard alot of great things about them. I'm just lazy, lol. Same goes for the Blood Brothers, need to check them out, but lazy. I got a picture of me with Marc and Travis from Atreyu and one of them has a Bury Your Dead hoodie on. I haven't yeard much about them. A few more bands I think I'm going to add are Aiden, Fith Street Heist, Refused, The Back Maria, The Hurt Process. Can't forget about omgzzors! GREENDAY! lol. i like all underoath CDS even tho last CD had altyernative too so it crapped it i got their 4 cds+ 2 bonus tracks my davorite CD is cries of the past ive downloaded atryu's new songas and they suck man... btw thanx for mentioning blood brothers my friends benn telling me to download about them i am going to now!! if u mean with the back maria the black maria well they suck...they got no core lol, its just alternative-emo