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    Sect of religion destroys a monument (which is what those two buildings effectively were), now different part of religion wants to build something there. This scenario, which I tried to supplement with the Christian part, is not the fact that they are specifically Islam. It's the fact that it's deemed disrespectful to build something *near* a place that the other part of religion destroyed.

     

    This is silly though. Lets give the example of IRA bombings in the UK. In Manchester a large part of the city centre was wrecked in an IRA bomb not long before the 2001 attacks. Now we happen to know that those IRA members were Catholic. Do we therefore refuse to build Catholic Churches or any Christian Church anymore near the place where the bomb went off?

     

    No, because the religion isn't important but what is important is the humanity behind the attacks in the first place. Manchester was attacked for political reasons, New York was attacked for political reasons. The attackers were Muslim there but they were Catholic here. People are caught on the fact that the people who blew down the towers were Muslim when the real reason for the towers coming down was US interference in the Middle-East in the first place. It wasn't a war on Christianity launched on 9/11 as we all agree, it was a attack on a superpower who had stretched itself too far beyond its limits.

     

    It only makes sense to treat building a Mosque as disrespectful if the attacks were primarily motivated by religion which isn't the case.

  2. What I was saying about the Church/abortion is it's not a matter of religious freedom/freedom of speech. The problem here is not that they are muslim, nor as it even the building that was destroyed. The point I was "arguing," was that 9/11 was the first time in a while where the American people stepped up as one to help each other out. And let's just face it, the people who bombed were Islamic extremists. They were Muslim. So I simply see it as a sign of disrespect. Am I saying all the Muslims there are terrorists/extremists? Of course not, nor am I implying that they are in any way involved with 9/11. Also, (this is 3) as well) I know all about the situation, (in fact I was gonna post this topic on Monday if no one had posted it yet) and I'm perfectly aware that it is a community center, with a mosque. Should there technically be allowed to build there due to free speech etc? Yes. But would anyone complain if a church tried to build over the site of an abortion center Christians blew up; and were denied permission? YES! The "fundamentalist" Christians would complain. And surprise, I'd bet my salary (though I know you won't admit it) you wouldn't care at all. Thats life, they can build somewhere else. What if there was a Muslim on the city board? Racist? No, ofc not... Muslims can't be racist... right?

     

    You begin by arguing that the point isn't that the 9/11 terrorists are Muslim, yet your whole argument relies upon the fact that they were.

     

    Your other point, I'm not sure how it is connected, was that 9/11 showed a time when New Yorkers joined together to overcome the attack. What has this got to do with the discussion? Im sure many of the people who joined together to overcome the disaster were also Muslim.

     

    What you say might make sense if you believed that Islam was the undoubted perpetrator of the attacks, but this is silly, as you'd probably admit. Unless it is Islam and not the 10 men that committed the destruction of the towers then you have no reason to suggest that it is a religion to blame and not the criminals. All you do is insult the religion and reduce the blame that should rightly fall on the men.

  3. Good work to everyone getting results, uni is a blast, you'll love it. Was a nice change not having the results day stress this year though!

     

    You can say that again. Even though I graduated this year I still feel nervous when it comes around to this day.

     

    Well done to everybody, but especially well done to the guy who is going to Manchester for PPE, you'll have lots of fun!

    SATENZA!! It's been so long! Well done graduating man.

     

    On topic: I got my AS results today

    Physics - A

    Chemistry - A

    Maths - A

    Biology - B

    I'm gonna be applying for physics/astrophysics, not sure where yet though.

     

    Well done James, congratulations! Isn't Cambridge good for Physics? :)

     

    Physics is by far the best science!

  4. Good work to everyone getting results, uni is a blast, you'll love it. Was a nice change not having the results day stress this year though!

     

    You can say that again. Even though I graduated this year I still feel nervous when it comes around to this day.

     

    Well done to everybody, but especially well done to the guy who is going to Manchester for PPE, you'll have lots of fun!

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    You're interests have no impact whatsoever on your biology. Every human being, with the exception of those unfortunate enough to be sterile/infertile, has the ability to reproduce. Being homosexual just means that you choose not to reproduce. Note: I say choose because I consider homosexuality a choice just like it is your choice to breathe. You can choose not to breathe, but eventually you're going to either give in to your instincts or die.

     

    Also, you need to realize that sexuality isn't black and white. It's a range of greys. Just like how some people who say they're straight, but would be open to "experimentation", you can't just label someone as hetero/homosexual/bisexual to get a true grasp of what their sexuality really is.

     

    Just to top it off, sexuality is psychological, not biological.

     

    Being homosexual does not simply mean you choose not to reproduce. I am in awe that you, aquariusman, have concretely solved the issue of whether homosexuality is a choice or not a choice. How can you possibly consider something to be a choice when the very best scientists this world has to offer can not even do such a thing? I consider your consideration to be inconsiderate.

     

    I like how you end with misrepresenting this unfounded belief as well, by stating apparently categorically that it is certainly not biological but is certainly psychological.

     

    You don't have to fill the void of knowledge with unfounded beliefs.

  6. Sounds good. When I visited I went to the small museum within the Library which has the official decree opening the university in 1425. That was interesting. Almost every other building seems to belong to the University as well. I did go in June and it was quite hot and that was nice but I suspect the city by appearance looks nice whatever the weather, and indeed if it rains it might even bring out more of the character of the city. I am looking forward to moving there in September and getting acquainted with Belgium.

     

    Do you know if the trains are reasonable prices to visit other European cities or whether there is a special student pass or young persons pass that can lower the prices?

  7. Yes, I should have asked that question when I visited the University. I did see a few bookshops around but I didn't really have time to explore them because of time restraints.

  8. Hah. I already know much about the Belgium beer and I am a fan of it. I do quite like Duvel too. I was surprised by how cheap it was to drink things like Rochefort which over here costs quite a lot and over there was less expensive than tea! I have my own place so I have to cook my own food but I have lived away from home for three years anyway so I am not worried about all that. I was wondering about books actually because I will need quite a lot and they will need to be in English, is it easy to pick up academic books in English over there or would I be best to order them online? Oh Im from the UK as well, so it isn't too far and I don't mind being away from home et cetera. Im not very sentimental about all that I suppose.

     

    Oh, I don't think it fills the entire year. I may finish late June. I have my apartment there for 12 months though so I'll be there for that amount of time. Hopefully in the summer I can go travelling to France, Germany, Netherlands et cetera.

  9. Have fun in Leuven, I'd say. Though Ghent is the party-city. I think.

     

    Will you be renting something there in the neighboorhood or on the campus?

    I think they'll threat you well, you're an exchange student afterall.

     

    When I went I sorted out where I shall be living, just opposite the main library on the square. I think the square may be called Ladeuzeplein. Leuven as a city looked very nice and I hope my time spent there will be entertaining. The city, even in the summer, was filled with students everywhere.

  10. I am going there in September to study at The Catholic University of Leuven for 12 months. I recently visited and it was very nice. I was wondering if any Belgians could give me any tips on living there?

     

    Thanks :)

  11. I finished Demons/The Possessed by Dostoyevsky last week, which was another excellent book. I believe I have read all of his novels now.

    I read The Snows of Kilimanjaro and Other Short Stories, Fiesta: The Sun Also Rises, The Old Man and the Sea, Death in the Afternoon and A Moveable Feast all by Hemingway over the last few weeks.

    The Myth of Sisyphus again by Camus.

    Finnegan's Wake by Joyce, which was a love/hate experience.

     

    A man after my own heart. Though I do notice a lack of For Whom The Bell Tolls, which is my favourite Hemingway novel after The Sun Also Rises. Demons is very close to Dostoevsky's best (second only to The Brothers Karamazov and perhaps The Idiot), and is supplemented nicely by The Myth of Sisyphus.

     

     

    That was simply my recently read list. For Whom The Bell Tolls is probably my favourite Hemingway alongside The Sun Also Rises but both are quite different to each other. I agree that Karamazov is probably the best Dostoyevsky. It is filled up with great characters like Father Ferapont who literally sees the demons around him, what an excellent chapter that is. I read Camus again because of the chapter on Kirilov in The Myth of Sisyphus, he is a most interesting man.

  12. Finished reading The Lost World tonight. God, I love that book. Dinosaurs eating people are win. :thumbsup:

     

    What should I read next? :unsure:

     

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    Ok yea that site is crap. I just put in a decent quote from Ernest Hemingway, and it said the [bleep]ing writer was Anne Rice? The vampire lady?

     

    Let it be noted that in 2004, Anne Rice devoted all of her future books "to the Lord," and as such, has stopped writing anything to do with vampires. Now she writes about angels and that sort of thing, her two latest published books being about the life and times of Jesus.

     

    :cry: :thumbdown:

     

    R.I.P. Lestat.

     

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    Edit: Also, for the sake of science and discovery, I Copy+Pasted everything above from my post into that website, and it compared it to Stephen King. I'm sensing a trend...

     

    Actually I read in The Guardian she has turned away from Christianity now.

    Here.

  13. Hm, what have I read recently?

     

    I finished Demons/The Possessed by Dostoyevsky last week, which was another excellent book. I believe I have read all of his novels now.

    I read The Snows of Kilimanjaro and Other Short Stories, Fiesta: The Sun Also Rises, The Old Man and the Sea, Death in the Afternoon and A Moveable Feast all by Hemingway over the last few weeks.

    The Myth of Sisyphus again by Camus.

    Finnegan's Wake by Joyce, which was a love/hate experience.

    The Alhambra by Washington Irving. Which I have a First Edition of :)

     

     

    The best of the bunch is hard to distinguish because they are all so different from one another. I must say Hemingway and Dostoyevsky are the most entertaining authors to read for completely different reasons.

     

    Edit: To mughinn

     

    Ulysses is a very difficult book to read and one you must have patience with. It is enjoyable once you begin to understand Joyce but this can take awhile. It was after all such a deviation from classical literature that it will be quite unlike anything you have read before. But good luck!

     

    Oh, and I recommend reading A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man before Ulysses as it will begin to give you an insight into both James Joyce and Stephen Dedalus who also appears in Ulysses. It is of course a fraction of the length of Ulysses as well.

  14. my view on this is:

     

    israel fought for that land through wars against several countries. they earned the right to that land. sure, it's not "ethical" that israel is there, but a lot of countries are established through warfare. only an idiot would ignore the fact that almost every strong economic state today have invaded other lands for resources / territory. i'm sure israel would be happy to give the Palestinians casinos in a few centuries. israel won the battles, and the wars. boohoo let the victors write the history.

     

    besides, israel has done more for the world than modern arab states. if they didn't have so much oil, would the west even glance at the mid east? maybe not.

     

     

    You must be some sort of supporter of colonialism devoid of any humanity and focused only on Western power. It is opinions like this and people like you that are totally ignorant to history and reasonable action, and so much so that you don't understand the necessity of an ethical diplomacy. Most people now understand that colonialism was a bad thing and stripping the resources of the world from the poorest people isn't something to look upon with glory. Many think that it isn't the right of the stronger to attack the weaker and that history shouldn't be written on the side of the victors but by the merits of their actions.

  15. Agreed, everything I will write will be over simplified because of the fact the issue is complex and I don't necessarily have the time to write long posts either.

     

    To respond to your last comment - no. It isn't simply the occupation of illegal territory that justifies the rockets. It is the consequences of what occupation does. Hundreds of thousands of refugee's scattered across the neighbouring countries with deeds and titles in their hands to houses now occupied by Israeli's or else demolished and who now live in camps because the countries won't accept them properly. The thousands upon thousands killed by one of the most sophisticated militaries in the world, or the ones orphaned by similar disasters and the many more crippled. Maybe all the people in Gaza suffering a slow death by starvation have reason to attack. Any resistance encountered is understandable and the bombs that fall on Gaza and destroy its hospitals and civil buildings only make that resistance stronger.

     

     

    I completely agree the illegal settlements are horrible, and condemn those myself. I hate that to it's very core, and am ashamed for those who take place.

     

    But killing is an inevitable part of war. Israel has lost it's fair share of lives, I can gurantee that. It isn't one sided, and that's what war brings, I'm afraid.

     

    Oversimplifying anything in the favor of one side is pointless, and grants nothing.

     

    It isn't a war it is a resistance. Israel has of course lost lives, but not even one tenth of the lives lost by the palestinians. Despite the complexities the Israeli's are the aggressors and like the UN said, their actions are akin to war crimes.

     

    You call rocket launches at a city of innocent Israeli citizens a resistance? Not war crimes, and terrorism? You call suicide bombers a resistance? Not idiocy and cruelty?

     

    Of course it is! What else would it be? It is cruel but it is understandable. Why do you not consider it cruel and idiotic when artillery fire rains down on Gaza and phosphorus is unleashed against a population who is blockaded and forced to withstand it!?

     

    You may want to know, incase you don't already. Each and every war but the Six Days War (which was a result of the Israeli intelligence finding out a war was to be initiated the very same day) wasn't initiated by Israel. You call that resistance?

     

    What about when Israel invaded Egypt during the Suez Crisis in 1956?

    Or South Lebanon in 1978?

    Or Lebanon in 1982?

    Or the other war with Egypt in 1967?

    Then the Six Day War.

    Or what is now called the War in Gaza only in 2008?

     

    What about the constant assassinations from Mossad.

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