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    See, here's a difficult situation. What is Democracy here? What if, in total, the majority of Europeans actually agree with the new Treaty, but a majority in some countries such as Ireland and the UK (which make up a minority of the EU overall) refuse to accept it? Surely, it should be the majority of Europeans overall that decide whether or not the new European Treaty is worth putting into place, not a majority of those living in a few conservative countries.

     

     

     

    The fact is this - only those who vehemently oppose this Treaty care about this whole referendum thing. The rest of us are perfectly happy letting the people we've voted to represent us make that decision on our behalf.

     

     

     

    I don't want a refurendum for many reasons. What you're suggesting in a tyranny of the majority. Its important for all member states to agree because otherwise the EU would not work, its not a country after all. My post did not reflect my views on the treaty it reflected exactly what the EU will do to continue to attempt to ratify this treaty.

  2. I'm suprised that most people don't see the fact that all Hamas and all the other Arabs want to do is blow up Isreal

     

     

     

    What are you talking about? Saying you beleive that all Arabic people want to blow up Israel is bordering on racism, which you seem to do quite a lot of.

     

     

     

    Regardless of your frankly insulting post, another ceasefire was called today between Hamas and Israel that should last up to six months. According to the Guardian, in the first 72 hours there will be a halt on fighting from both sides, afterwards there will be an easing on the blockades in order to allow supplies through. If that goes steady for a week then there will be less restrictions at commercial crossing points. Hopefully a peaceful ceasefire will allow Fatah and Hamas to reconcile their differences and create a climate of true negotiation between Palestine and Israel.

  3. The terrorists are a minority of the population. They are not the government. I in no way promote what this minority are doing but on the other hand I believe that Israel is committing a greater crime when is uses tactics which are akin to acts of terror on a whole different scale.

     

     

     

    What are you talking about? They ARE the government. Hamas controls gaza. #-o

     

     

     

    Hamas condones rocket attacks on Israel only in response to action on Palestine. They however certainly do not take responsibility for the vast majority of them. Infact Hamas have offered a ceasefire with Israel in return for the Palestinian land Israel has occupied since the six-day war subject to a referendum in those areas. This ceasefire agreement Israel is yet to respond too. I do not support Hamas by any stretch of the imagination, but we have to look at the reasons as to why an extremist government were elected in the first place. As pointed out by the above poster, it is due really to the failings of the previous government and of Israeli actions.

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    Oh I get it. So its okay for Palistines to go with electricity, get supplies for rockets, lots of food and education for more terrorist training, that way Isreal can still experience more life lost.

     

     

     

    The homemade rockets are weak and pretty pathetic in comparison to the technology Israel has and uses quite indiscriminately. Israel may have smart bombs but they are clealry controlled by idiots when we look at the death ratio which I believe is about 1:10. The fact Israel effectively blockaded Palestinian boarders and starved the country in an effort of collective punishment for the civilians when it has nothing to do with them is an act of terror and a case of international war crimes.

     

     

     

    How about we not send in the Military? Just let them keep attacking innocent civi's? Let Terrorists have their way?

     

     

     

    The terrorists are a minority of the population. They are not the government. I in no way promote what this minority are doing but on the other hand I believe that Israel is committing a greater crime when is uses tactics which are akin to acts of terror on a whole different scale.

     

     

    Once again your playing the number game and only value life on ONE side. While I understand what your saying, Isreal is NOT doing this because they WANT to starve the people, they are doing it because its neccessary for their own national defense. You got to be stupid to sit and do nothing and let your own people die so some guy on a forum can have a ego boost by saying Isreal is evil for trying to stop more of its own population get bombarded by rockets.

     

     

     

    When have I indicated I value only the Palestinian lives? This is a real situation with very real consequences. Looking at the numbers of those killed isn't "playing the number game" its seeing the reality of the situation and the vast gaps between the force of some Palestinians and the Israeli Army. I agree that the lives are equal. But 1200+ lives is not equal to 80 something.

     

     

    It really sucks that their is innocent civi's getting mistreated in Palistine, but if you want to judge by numbers, then you go out of this thread and hop into a Dafar one because THATS where the biggest number if innocents is being killed.

     

     

     

    This isnt relevant.

  5. So some mortar rounds from minority extremists in Palestein warrants the indiscriminate shelling and bombardment Israel likes to throw around? Israel has caused over 1000 deaths, 6000 injuries of Palestinians. In extremist attacks from Palestein there have been only 80 odd deaths.

     

     

     

    Such justification is pure idealistic nonsense. Numbers do not matter. What matters is that the rockets are being fired. If we make a numbers game it is easy to take sides. The fact is that we do not live in the world of Israel or Palestine and it is easy to judge living in our relative glass palaces.

     

     

     

    What am I justifying? I certainly am not justifying attacks from extremist Palestinians. I certainly am not justifying Israel cutting off the petrol, cutting off the water, cutting off the electricity and starving the hospitals of supplies while responding with force ten time the force that is delivered to them. Sometimes not even a direct response to an attack but an alleged preemptive one. I find not looking at the statistics idealistic nonsense.

  6. The stringent checks are sometimes quite ridiculous. I am sure it is to interupt their day since I have seen reporters documenting some of this where the Israeli soliders made it their priority to disrupt even peasents attempting to grow crops over the lines of another invisible boarder. On the otherhand, such measures are perhaps worthwhile if it means Israel does not once again effectivley starve and destroy the palestinian citizens while shelling them with rockets knowing full well they have little more than a few rusted AK-47's.

  7. Anyone who took this as a literal question, time and time again is an idiot.

     

     

     

    Edit: To answer the question I would claim that in the past it has been my brain; recently I have been undergoing the opposite. Not substituting one for the other but being more endorsing of emotion in certain ways. Maybe it is a realization of the very distinction of what is and what ought to be. Or maybe it is me being less aware of the distinction. Either way thatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s what is.

  8. I like Bond somewhat, the new film however I did not really enjoy. Mainly because it promised to change the way the films were done but in the end it did not. In the majority of the films the first few scenes start well and then it decends into a guy jumping up a crane and all that. I was fairly excited when it started, it looked grim and brutal and even unattractive which is what should have changed the franchise. I always see the way forward is to neglect all the hollywood imputs. Bring it back to what it should be which it British, give it the 'Get Carter' feel. The actor who can portray that is Clive Owen.

  9. Today was a pretty damn full day. At 1AM this morning one of my flat mates came back and decided we should go spend her tips from work at a shop pretty close to us. We (well, she) spent 70 pounds, which is equal to like 130 dollars? On absolute rubbish. We stayed up playing pool and watching a film and all that jazzz until about 5ish.

     

     

     

    I had to then get up at 9AM for a 10AM lecture in ethics. So I attended, then afterwards I got some coursework back for it for which I achieved a first, which is the top band of mark. Then I went to hand in more coursework this time it was for European Politics. I went home from 12 until 2PM when I came in again and went to another lecture on Electoral Systems and how they differentiate. Then to another lecture on the European Court of Justice, then another seminar on the European Parliament. So I finished about 5 and managed to piss off my friend who I am living with next year for not allowing for her pro-discrimination crap about how she should get the room in the house we both want because she is female. Anyway, so I went home and got something to eat, watched some television and then went to the Library to get some more books out to study for next weeks work on the Attlee government in Britain (1945-51). Then I read Crime and Punishment for awhile and decided it was getting to heavy so I am now watching The Office (UK version of course) and typing this jazz. Also I am eating a bag of salad since my days have been so rushed achieving a balanced diet has been quite the task, oh and IÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢m listening to the Beach Boys. ItÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s now 11:30PM, well thats a day in the life...

  10. The connection between atheism and suicide is irrelevant. Rather it has to do with the question of whether we understand how we come about finding a meaning to our lives. I see religion as an advocate of this and a very strong advocate. We can not derive faith from someone else, it is an inherently internal conclusion we draw. This may lead you to knowing your meaning in life, such as to serve your God. Whereas the next person may see their life to take a different meaning. They have come about that decision by the same ways in which you have come about yours, through themself. You have both taken the same path of discovery, each has found meaning and each views the next mans meaning to life as less relevant to their own. Your view is understandable, but how you can say the meaning you have discovered is more relevant to someone else than their own is beyond me, if each is formulated by the same method, yours is no more substantial than anyone elses.

  11. Nuclear, what you seem to think is that debt is good. I dont know where you're getting this idea, but I'd like to know. Can you provide some sufficient evidence?

     

     

     

    Just because you're rich doesn't mean you have no problems in life. Just because you're a rich country doesn't mean you dont have to worry about anything.

     

    I believe he's going off Keynesian Theory, in which government [over]spending is a good thing that keeps the economy stable and growing when used at the right times.

     

     

     

     

    Yes thats what I was going to propose, however Keynesian theory aims to in the long run build a strong economy, constantly having a budget deficit it not really what Keynes as far as I am aware was promoting. Infact his theories were inherently progressive, and relied upon achieving full employment. Glancing at the poverty levels across the USA, and unemployment it would look like Keynesian economics are incredibly misunderstood.

  12. not sure when you can join the army etc though...

     

    16. It's the big controversy. You can die for your country, yet you have no right to decide who puts in that situation in the first place. :wink:

     

     

     

     

    Not really, you can join the army at 16 but you can not be sent to fight until you reach 18. The only real argument is that 16 year olds commit themselves to the army for a number of years without realising how long they will serve, theres been some fuss about that recently.

     

     

     

    As for coming of age I did not see it as a problem, most people drink prior to 18, the only real difference for the average 18 year old is the ability to vote, and most do not take it seriously and so there is no real concerns for them.

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    Even neglecting the whole thread, let's really think about the idea Dark_Aura and others bring up about choosing sexual orientation. The implication of this is clearly that I should be able to choose to be attracted to guys. Well, for me, it's as clear as day that this is not a possibility. Try as I might, I'm only attracted to the opposite sex, trust me. :lol:

     

     

     

     

    You're clearly not trying hard enough.

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