I basically said nothing of the sort. When someone requests they want a party hat, then I can make it, where did I say it was the hardest thing to model? I don't think allot of people understand what goes into 3D, its certainly not as easy as canvas + tools. I am a designer in life, I make sigs on here for a little RS cash. What would you prefer? 8x10 prints and corporate identity? I am not a sig maker, I simply do what I have been requested to do, and stick finished models/render in a blank image big enough to be allowed on the forum. Abstract in my eyes is basically art that doesnt really fit in into any other catergory, basically stuff that is random, messy and so on. So there you have it, you can agree to disagree. Makes no difference to me, simply because this type of art will continue to be created whether I like it or not, and there will always be someone who thinks it's new/unique/original/awesome/ They learn to accept it in the end, especially when they get bored of it/posters get bored of seeing it over. Yes, I fall into the latter.