for trainign str i recomend a d scimi Omg I can't stop laughing :lol: It's really just unbelievable...I was about to submit without adding that last bolded part in, but I knew some morons would suggest a dragon scimmy, so I decided to reiterate my point in bold. Looks like that was useless... Anyway, torag's hammers and the flail both have the aggressive option for their highest attack bonus, so that's not a problem. The torag hammer is higher attack (however slight it may be) and also cheaper, so it's the clear choice. Now it's a matter of whether to get the hammers or the great axe. K [bleep]. want some advice. YOU ARE THE MORON. actually no want it in bold?YOU ARE THE MORON. You expect getting quick str exp without working for it or getting d scimmy or dharoks. I done monkey madness with 1 prayer and 1 mage and 1 defence YES [bleep] ITS 1 DEFENCE DUMB [bleep]