sorry for the repeat post -- this seems to be the right spot, tho... Up until now, I was firmly on Jagex's side in the war against RWT. But 3k every 15 mins?!???? Please tell me how you will do law running, sell a whip outside the "official price" to quick raise cash, or -- for me the killer -- give my kids a present now and then? Ok, everyone is grumbling, but there is a sense of fatalism here which is pathetic. If all the fan sites (you know who you are -- runehq, zybez, tip.it and 2-3 more) would organize, we could bring Jagex to their knees. First, a protest march. Let's say in an empty world, a silent march of supporters from Varrock to Fally. Second, ratchet up the pressure. An allout call from the fansites for a two week boycott of memberships. Cancel your membership, and when it runs out don't renew for two weeks. Spend the time mining iron on a non-member world near Varrock; or raise your runecrafting with two weeks of fast, free airs on world 16. Plenty of things to do on non-members, and after two weeks you will remember why you liked members in the first place. I guarantee, two weeks of that sort of cash flow loss will take Jagex completely off guard. Third, nominate representatives -- one from each fan site -- to negotiate in good faith with Jagex. Yes to fighting RWT; no to eliminating friendship via unbalanced trades! The levers of power are at hand. Fan sites make an effective leadership and communication tool. Real life labor movements would have killed for these advantages. Is tip.it content to whine, or will they join in an organized movement to represent the masses on RS? beo