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At the end of the day, Jagex is a business, and there to make a profit. However, I think they have not completely forgotten their players; the proof of this is in the holiday updates, which are not concerned with player satisfaction, but rather just a bit of harmless fun. So I think that they are not entirely profit driven.
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I think everyone is missing the key point here.He said such cases are rare, especially when they involve a woman. "We see it the other way around, where the father's abusing the daughter way more frequently," Poland said.
In relating the facts, Poland said that several months after the woman split up with her husband, she began visiting her sons at his home. This lasted for several years until the ex-husband began to suspect she was drinking, and he reduced the frequency of her visits.
This is so very important, that they had to get a whole country in to investigate.
But why pick Poland? It's not known for it's frequent incest charges is it? :-w
Poland is the name of the prosecutor:
The woman will be sentenced in November. Crown prosecutor Mark Poland said outside court that incest sentences can range from a conditional sentence of house arrest to a prison term. -
Oh dear God, I just wet my pants. Online play is going to be AWESOME!
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Good Lord, imagine how scary that is, doing an autopsy only to have the body wake up. Still, how could they mistake him for being dead?
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I think Marth says something along the lines of "Hey guys, look at me!".
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Dudes, this movie has to be about Broli. Broli's intense. No one beats Broli.
BROLI
No way man, it's all about Goten! Yay Goten!
I am definitely going to see this if it comes out. Hopefully the Kamehameha will look spectacular
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Bluerose13x was the first person to 99 smithing I believe, which in RSC was equivalent to Zezima now. And I believe the only way to get a Rune 2 Hander (and possibly kite, I'm not sure) was to smith it - meaning only Bluerose13x and her close friends (for a time, anyway) had access to the most hallowed weapon in the game. She could also, to a certain extent, control some of the harder to get rune items (i.e. monster drops, e.g. Rune Large from Greaters).
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Your request is tantamount to "Free stuff plz?". If they don't want to part with their hard earned wares, then you have no right to call them selfish. And then you killed 24 more dragons than necessary because you didn't get your way - much like a child throwing a tantrum because he didn't get a lollipop.
When two people share one dragon, at best you can get one hide in 2 minutes. Meaning 30 hides an hour (not counting banking time), which, at current market prices, is ~60k, which means a lot to people if that's their money maker. The OP could easily have paid the 8k for the hides and been on his merry way.
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IT IS THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT! RUN FOR THE HILLS! THE IDIOTS ARE IN CONTROL NOW!
There are bad apples in every bunch, if they're immature they're not worth your time or patience. I suppose one way to stop them is to ask if they come from RuneHq and ban all those who say yes?
@Mithril Max: I'm guessing those are the kinds of posts he is ranting about.
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1. Fair enough.
2. I don't think they'd be entirely gone on f2p; there is still a market for resources on f2p, such as essence, fish (for training, pking), ores for smithing, leather and silver for crafting, etc. So they would not be entirely eradicated; they would just be present on a smaller scale. Although this would be preferable to the current situation.
3. Then again, I could say f2p will complain because they've lost a large portion on their buyers; you could say that's not going to happen, just as I've been saying not all members whine and complain, but that would stray from the topic.
4. Okay, I think I misunderstood you; fair enough, there are those types of members.
5. Consider this; it's not only yews that would be affected. Macroers need lower level training spots to get to the level required for yew logs. So those spots would also been occupied by macroers, perhaps even more so than before. Now, if they concentrate all of their macros on woodcutting, surely it would not take them long to realise that some of those macros aren't productive enough to justify paying for members. So they are faced with two options; cut back on macros or concentrate them on other RuneScape resources. So, if they do decide to move their macros to other areas, those areas could then become infested with macros, if said areas are profitable enough to use the macros.
The macroers are probably getting worse; at the moment I am not training skills where macroers are a problem.
Perhaps we could remove the gold buyers? Modify the trading system so that it is done in a certain part and world of RuneScape, much like the duel arena for duels, with Jagex Mods overseeing every trade, flagging suspicious trades (e.g. someone giving away a large sum of money). To eliminate other forms of trade, modify duels so that you can only stake items of equal or extremely similar value. Make it so that you can only see someones drop pile if you have just killed them in the wilderness. Although a major drawback to this system would be the destruction of merchanting as we know it. Of course you also wouldn't be able to hold drop parties (although this would not be changed for the party room - perhaps have this restricted to a few worlds with Jagex Mods flagging suspicious persons?), unless in the party room. And you wouldn't be able to give gifts to friends, although I don't personally know anyone who's given away more than a mith battle axe. Although this probably would create more problems than it solves. Man, that is one tough cookie to crumble.
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I guess it's a bad idea to post 'Emo is not a dirty word' then?
If you hate emo's because they pester you when you don't care, couldn't you just tune out and not listen? If you hate them because they classify themselves as emo, shouldn't you then hate people who classify themselves as metal heads? As 'gangstas'? As chavs? I agree it is pretty stupid to act depressed when you're not, but people go to great lengths just to fit in, to belong. Should you hate people for wanting that?
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[/hide]1. It is not a crime for a p2p to buy his or her supplies. They obviously have the money, and that money has likely come from hard work, given the lack of get rich quick methods.Never stated nor was implying that it was a crime. But it is with almost absolute certainty when you see someone selling 20k yews it's a fairly
safe assumption that macroing was involved.
2. Macroers will never be gone. Due to RuneScape's availability, it's a sad fact of life. And you are grossly generalising the member population. Even if a page of the rants forums is occupied about rants about the lack of resources, that's 17 rants out of a million players. You concentrate on the bad, yet ignore the good.
Elaborate pls?
You are saying that macroers moving to p2p worlds will fill the void left from the inability to trade with f2p worlds, thus cutting honest f2p's from the equation. By saying there will be no hit to supply due to macroers moving to members, you are completely ignoring the materials supplied by honest f2p's.If my idea was to be implemented this moment I stand to lose around 9 million dollars. Now if were f2p for any significant period you should know
all to well how hard it is to make money. I rather lose that money then to continue being sneered at by arrogant, egotistical p2p players.
If they create them on f2p that would suggest they are unwilling or unable to pay the fee for members. So why would that change if your idea was implemented? If they suddenly became willing, then there are still those that are unable.
Them = macros?
I'm lost as to what you're going on with this.
If macroers are unwilling to make p2p accounts then is sounds like
you said they'll make f2p accounts. No they would not because there's
no point because they will have no one to sell to, especially yews.
This would only work for a few days, and then p2p would be flooded with macro's while f2p would be macro free. This only moves the problem from one place to another, and wouldn't solve anything in the long run. The only permanent fix is to some how force everyone to stop buying RS gold.The only significant impact would be an explosion in the number of yew macroers. Other than that there shouldn't be any other change in p2p.
Already got macroers fishing sharks and mining pure ess so things are already at a low concerning p2p macroer issues. Also players buying rs gold shows you how pathetic some people are wiling to cheat at a virtual game.
Beside most probably p2p buys yews harvested from macroers anyway so I'm just simplying suggest that the macroes go to p2p worlds.
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It's because most p2p would rather buy supplies fromlv3 chars which get their resources from their macro
accounts. It just reaffirms that most p2p are lazy and
will obvious never want to work harder than they have to.
Unlike p2p, f2p players have hardly any choice when it
comes to resource collection. Also it's a crime for any
p2p that has to work harder than they should. It seems
training for 99 skills don't require balls anymore.
To me the bold part sounds as if you're implying it is a crime. More than implying, actually. Also, just because they are selling vast amounts of resources does not necessarily mean that macroing was involved. There are more click intensive tasks that have been achieved, e.g. thieving, hunter, mining. Cutting yews is basically click, wait. Not very taxing. And from what I've heard about gold farmers is that they basically have people on several accounts at once checking back every so often to make sure they're still on.
2. You said in your post IF macroers were gone, and I was merely stating that they will never be gone. Think about how easy it is make an account and have it woodcutting. Therefore it is safe to assume that macroers can continually create and maintain RuneScape accounts.
Yes f2pers are the majority of the working class in rs or at least on the lower end. If all macroers were gone, then f2pers would get better pay for their resources. I always see p2p coming on f2p worlds ripping off f2p players. I hate the fact that when it comes to yews, f2pers are p2p's bi0tches. I'm sure if Jagex did find a fool proof way to get rid of macroers, the majority of p2p will [bleep] and cry about how much harder it is to train their skills. If you're gonna cry about it then you probably don't deserve it.Here you are grossly generalising members as whiny, lazy, spoilt, upper class [bleep]s. I was rebutting by saying that if, assuming your idea is implemented, a whole page of the rants forum was taken by rants about your idea, that is a mere 17 out of a million paying members [bleep]ing about the change. Nothing more than a drop in the ocean.
3. Of course I realise what it's like to be f2p, hell I got my fishing to 65 in classic, which was no mean feat. It was constant clicking, 'Use lobster pot with lobster fishing spot'. I remember getting my combat stats to 70 on black knights, getting my fishing from 65 to 70 at 14k/hour, at best. I remember mining iron for a whole week, just so I could buy full rune to do dragon slayer. I remember losing an adamant full helm and scimitar, and thinking it was the end of the world. And, if you'd care to look me up, you'd see hunter is my only good members stat - my next best is fletching, at 61. And if members bother you that much, don't trade with them. If you want to meet a decent member, it's not that hard - once again, you are focusing on the bad and ignoring the good.
4. Yes, 'them=macros'. You said:
There are already p2p autoers/ gold farmers so I sure they can afford to make more. And if there's a chance they can't, then it's a point for rs.I was replying by saying that they make their macros f2p for a reason - they are unwilling or unable to make their macros members. So why should that change if your idea was implemented?
5. It wouldn't only be yews affected; all lower level woodcutting spots would be affected too, seeing as they have to train somewhere, right? Also, if their spots in f2p are now useless, the smart option is to branch out to other products, not just yews. So assuming those gold farmers have a couple of brain cells, they'll realise 'Hey, some of my macroers are superfluous; perhaps I could get them to mine pure essence, or maybe iron. Hey, fishing sounds like a good idea, lets try that...hmm, I wonder if maybe Runecrafting or thieving are good money spinners. Maybe I'll dabble a bit in merchanting, see if there are other monsters worth hunting apart from dragons. Hmm, I see chinchompas are rather pricey, lets try those...maybe I could make money from mini games?' So, it is plausible that given a lack of options, they may decide to create more options, and if these options are successful, we may see an explosion of macroers in other skills.
And basically the purpose of your suggestion is to make the macroers move from f2p to p2p? You would desire massive economic upheaval to rid yourself of macroers? You want to destroy members for your own enjoyment? If the macro problem gets that bad in members, I can only see RuneScape going downhill.
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[/hide]You are obviously not a p2per.Only a free player would suggest anything like this. It's
like suggesting free players should get an update that
members don't. It makes no sense. The only way to
effectively end autoers is to AUTOMATICALLY detect
and ban them. Face it- autoers will almost always be on
RuneScape. There's almost no way to destroy them
without harming non-macroing players as well.
It's because most p2p would rather buy supplies from
lv3 chars which get their resources from their macro
accounts. It just reaffirms that most p2p are lazy and
will obvious never want to work harder than they have to.
Unlike p2p, f2p players have hardly any choice when it
comes to resource collection. Also it's a crime for any
p2p that has to work harder than they should. It seems
training for 99 skills don't require balls anymore.
2. You are forgetting the honest f2pers who work for their money. Not everyone you see mining essence, chopping yews, etc. on f2p are macroers. Therefore supply will decrease, because *gasp* as shocking as it is to believe, macroers are not the sole source of supply from free worlds. Also, if, if. Your argument relies on the assumption that gold farmers will pay US$5 per account they create. And how many autoers are there on f2p? Enough to deter the gold farmers spending US$5 on each od those autoers. It would then make the difference of increased prices, due to demand being greater than supply.Yes f2pers are the majority of the working class in rs or at least on the lower end. If all macroers were gone, then f2pers would get better pay for their resources. I always see p2p coming on f2p worlds ripping off f2p players. I hate the fact that when it comes to yews, f2pers are p2p's bi0tches. I'm sure if Jagex did find a fool proof way to get rid of macroers, the majority of p2p will [bleep] and cry about how much harder it is to train their skills. If you're gonna cry about it then you probably don't deserve it.
When has a respectable professional player ever whined and complained about how hard it is to win a championship?
Also where did i say that macroers are the only suppliers of the free world? F2pers can not match the amount of resources produced by 24/7 autoers and gold farmers that get paid pennies to play.
There are already p2p autoers/ gold farmers so I sure they can afford to make more. And if there's a chance they can't, then it's a point for rs.
The autoers merely moved from one product to another. Not really an improvement, unless you mine essence for a living.No, yew f2p autoers will go extinct, most f2p lob autoers will die off since there will no longer be as many buyers going for 99 cooking. Lastly ess autoers are less of a problem. Most f2p players are too poor to make any money on rc so most would just mine the ess themselves.
1. It is not a crime for a p2p to buy his or her supplies. They obviously have the money, and that money has likely come from hard work, given the lack of get rich quick methods.
2. Macroers will never be gone. Due to RuneScape's availability, it's a sad fact of life. And you are grossly generalising the member population. Even if a page of the rants forums is occupied about rants about the lack of resources, that's 17 rants out of a million players. You concentrate on the bad, yet ignore the good.
You are saying that macroers moving to p2p worlds will fill the void left from the inability to trade with f2p worlds, thus cutting honest f2p's from the equation. By saying there will be no hit to supply due to macroers moving to members, you are completely ignoring the materials supplied by honest f2p's.
If they create them on f2p that would suggest they are unwilling or unable to pay the fee for members. So why would that change if your idea was implemented? If they suddenly became willing, then there are still those that are unable.
3. I was replying to your post about pure essence being successful, not your more encompassing posts.
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It actually means free the weasels.
In all seriousness, it means for the win.
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[/hide]1. Whilst you are correct up to a point, theoretically the market will settle at a new market equilibrium, most likely above the current prices. This is due to the fact there will be less suppliers, as f2p's outnumber p2p's by what, 9/1? There is less supply than demand, pushing prices up, and people will only go so low.
Then fletching may be more of a respectable skill cape goal than it is now.
2. Theoretically, yes. However, there aren't enough members to fill the void left by f2p. Also, many would realise it takes too long, they could be doing something else, etc.
If what others have said is true then the f2p macroers would just move onto p2p worlds and thus the supply will stay the same. What difference then would it make to most p2p players who simply buy their supplies.
3. Wannabe mods are not a good thing.True. But one 5 sec report from a player can lead to banning a macroer, autoer that spent hours to lv up and $5 for membership.
4. Increased (RS) cash flow will lead to increased profits, i.e. more product to sell at the same effort put in. So no, they will make more money, and it would impossible for Jagex to conclusively gather evidence against all the autoers and ban them before they make an impact.If jagex was efficient in banning p2p macroers and gold farmers then
my point would make sense but I see where you're going.
5. Irrelevant.
Ditto, just showing my thoughts.
6. I thought that's what we were trying to stop...? Unless you're just stating the obvious?
The obvious.
You put some thought into it but did Pure Ess really work? NO. IT FAILED.Before the pure essence update. P2P really only had autoers at catherby and the flax fields. Now they are EVERYWHERE! Maybe it did do something, maybe it didn't. I guess it depends which way you look at it.
It depends on how u look at it.
If i remember correctly you used to see a non stop parade of lv3s mining ess on f2p worlds. Comparing then and now it shows that there was some improvement as a result of the pure ess. The fact that people adapted, macroers adapted and jagex wasn't forces to undo pure ess shows that the change was a success.
1. And we are discussing how to get rid of autoers, correct?
2. You are forgetting the honest f2pers who work for their money. Not everyone you see mining essence, chopping yews, etc. on f2p are macroers. Therefore supply will decrease, because *gasp* as shocking as it is to believe, macroers are not the sole source of supply from free worlds. Also, if, if. Your argument relies on the assumption that gold farmers will pay US$5 per account they create. And how many autoers are there on f2p? Enough to deter the gold farmers spending US$5 on each od those autoers. It would then make the difference of increased prices, due to demand being greater than supply.
3. True.
The autoers merely moved from one product to another. Not really an improvement, unless you mine essence for a living.
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It would ruin fletching/alching/and firemaking
With the massive yews gone from the game yews would hit maybe 600ea or more. It would ruin fletching and alching yew longs. Also causing massive f2p-p2p macro invasion.
So not a good idea
Maybe make it that you can't bank more than 25k yews at a time without them disappearing.
1)Supply and Demand
I'm gonna have to throw an economics textbook at the next person who complains about the price. Look it up in wikipedia.
2)It just shows how unwilling p2p players are to collect resources. 600 ea per yew is almost twice as what it is now. Wouldn't that tempt more p2p players to cut and sell yews.
3)P2p wannabe mods have more autoers to report.
4)If enough autoers, gold farmer get banned and banned
again to the point where it's no longer practical to sell rs gp then they will quit.
5)Autoers invasion of p2p is as much as a concern to me as f2p bank space is to you.
6)Gold farmers get gold to sell to players by selling their macroed goods to players.
1. Whilst you are correct up to a point, theoretically the market will settle at a new market equilibrium, most likely above the current prices. This is due to the fact there will be less suppliers, as f2p's outnumber p2p's by what, 9/1? There is less supply than demand, pushing prices up, and people will only go so low.
2. Theoretically, yes. However, there aren't enough members to fill the void left by f2p. Also, many would realise it takes too long, they could be doing something else, etc.
3. Wannabe mods are not a good thing.
4. Increased (RS) cash flow will lead to increased profits, i.e. more product to sell at the same effort put in. So no, they will make more money, and it would impossible for Jagex to conclusively gather evidence against all the autoers and ban them before they make an impact.
5. Irrelevant.
6. I thought that's what we were trying to stop...? Unless you're just stating the obvious?
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Fine. Make up a new name for them and I will start calling them that.
How about 'no def nub'?
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I remember when a pure was someone who didn't raise range, magic or prayer. I never understood how the definition of a pure changed.
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Just because you're autoer doesn't make any skill "easy" to 99!
Let's see if you can skill to 99 on cooking and fletching WITHOUT cheating this time.
No one can be even 90 without cheating because it's just too many clicks.
No one can do the same operation milll of times! it's not posible for human.
As I don't want to cheat and I don't even know how, then for me the max level can be 85 on the easy skills and 60 to 70 on the hard ones.
Not so long time ago before the autoer attack no one except for the Jagex workers were 99. now there're tons of cheaters.
Skill cape = autoer cape
You moron. I was struck speechless for a moment at the sheer idiocy of your post. Just because someone has the patience and dedication to do something that seems out of reach to you does not automatically make them a cheater.
As for me, I don't really have a least admirable cape. Sure there may be easier capes, but in no way does that detract from their achievement.
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Me and my brother take the piss out of each other all the time. And my brother points to random girls and says "She's your future girlfriend". There was this one time when she was looking at us as we drove past. Needless to say her expression was hilarious.
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Go outside and get some fresh air, people. -.-
Fresh air hurts my lungs :(
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I bet anyone here would rather hang out with friends than click on a screen once in a while
You obviously don't know most of RS.
Now he's whiteDid anyone else find this incredibly hilarious?
If his sister moved out before the parents found out you'd think she'd had the commonsense to tell them. If not, she should had at least stayed to help.
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It was...interesting. At least it broke the monotony of Runescape.
You're those guys from Zilch, aren't you?
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