Nero

Probably around 20m by now.

Me and Archi have an odd relationship. I doubt either of us really dislike each other, we just have too similar personalities to get on extremely well.

Why would that be?

I have 20 cogs for colonization. My fleet is like...200 galleys and other assorted ships.

Considering they're going on a colonial/conquest mission, with thousands of troops and supplies for thousands of troops, it would take them days to load everything, and then they'd be plodding along with ships loaded to the brim. And if it was so hard to find ships on the Mediterranean, why were the Barbary pirates such a nuisance?

It's not exactly that far away. Maybe a day's sailing, which is a lot less time than it'd take you guys to load all your food or whatever. So you've decided that it's worth potentially going to war with everyone because you've decided Europe's greatest avenue of trade belongs to you...?

It's not exactly that far away. Maybe a day's sailing, which is a lot less time than it'd take you guys to load all your food or whatever.

As opposed to your non-existent navy made up of no ships that can hold 0 men max? I'd say I have a clear advantage there. btw, I'm not entirely sure where you got the idea that my ships can't sail beyond coastlines. They're galleys...they can't sail into oceans, but the Mediterranean isn't an ocean.

Mediterranean is a Spanish lake. idk

Nope. He ain't allowed through the Gibraltar straits. -- Anywho, Spain sends off 20 cogs to go build a colony and port in South Africa. Uses the remainder of my budget.

Spain builds a giant toll booth across the Gibraltar Strait. Hehe.

Opium won't grow on Crete, not the right environment for it.

:lol: Surprise at how strong they are, that they can defeat isolated and poorly led Frenchmen.

See, maybe now you guys realize you maybe should've helped Dungeonal just a simdgeon when the Mongols were swooping in instead of running away like little girls and whining at other people to make the scary mongolians go away.

Yeah I figured it looked a little weird on the map, retech. Any chance I can get maybe 2 million for the mysterious European white land.

I got that impression as well, Nex.

No, that's when you kick his knee out and elbow him in the teeth. Honestly, if someone is railing on you who isn't your friend... That being said I did get into plenty of trouble when I was in school.

Jesus christ you're [bleep]ing stupid.

If we casually leave out Nex I'd be all for that :thumbup: We'd have to leave out France as well, since they're heretics. And the Byzantines but they're smelly half-Turks anyways so whatever. Oh and the Bulgars. He rescinded that decision once he realized Protestantism wouldn't exist for another 400 years. Or he didn't want the Pope mad while there were mongorians on his doorstep. I can't remember.

The Catholic Alliance to Purge the Recently Arisen Heretic and Heathen Nations.

Nope.

Lolwut. Maybe if he's facing an enemy that has no fortresses or anything. Then yea, he'll never need to siege anything. You always make such bizarre absolutist statements. Spain stops them from sailing through the Gibraltar straits... ---- By the way, what were those gunpowder things that Icu has? Are they cannons or something? If so I might as well start research or whatever on them myself.

Lies. We all know human beings evolved from Tyrannosaurus Rex's.