Shadowcran

I apologize if my comments were bitter. But I've dealt with so many critics that I start to question why anyone would put forth an idea. As to if this skill idea is doable? Yes, very much so. I decided to do some research and yes, the graphics and combat etal are easily within the framework of Java technology. It's already been done in another game that I won't mention here. And it too is java based. I also figured out ways to power level the skill. That was what the 'big mods' were concerned about.

I appreciate all the feedback and support. Keep it coming.

My biggest mistake about this idea is that I failed to mention that this would draw PKers to attack those hunting the bounty NPCs. The problem is that is EXACTLY my intention. PKers out there would add spice to the bounty hunt. Another mistake was not clearly stating that these NPCs wouldn't stay in one spot all the time. They couldn't be staked out and killed that way and leave others unable to hunt the NPCs. If the NPC has any brains(artificial intelligence), he'd avoid a staked out area in the first place, just like any other player(that's not a noob) would do.

That is not the main problem. What I meant was that you could play stuff like Castle Wars but still have to go back to the "Real" Runescape world, whereas you can simply keep being a Pirate and that's that. And by your logic, the development team could very well introduce Galaxy Class Starships into Runescape. Why not then? It "isn't too big for Runescape to handle, is it?" Just because people reject your idea does not mean everyone is stupid, boy. _____________________________________________________________ I never claimed they were stupid. I claimed that I get far too many posts in the RS forums saying this idea is wrong because and I quote, "Runescape is four us playrs, not fr genioses." When did the Madden gamers start playing Runescape? The difference between 'galaxy craft starships' and the pirate skill is one doesn't exist and the other did exist and falls within the framework of medieval fantasy(Medieval period 500AD thru 1550AD). There are, as others pointed out, already quests dealing with pirates. Cabin Fever being the most prominent. I've noticed you've never said anything good about anyone's ideas but your own. I truly feel sorry for you. Why? I was just like you. Self centered to the point of isolating yourself from the rest of humanity. Down that path leads to a vicious disappointment that I wouldn't wish on anyone. Simply defending my idea and statements is perfectly reasonable. I didn't post this just to endure praise and abuse. I posted it because I want the idea to work and that requires effort. If everyone listened to critics like you nothing would ever be accomplished. As for your 'boy' comment, read my introduction.

I honestly thought the same as you which prompted me to look up the morningstar and flail. What we have in RS now is technically a MORNINGSTAR not a flail. A flail really is two sticks tied together by a cord.

Yes, I've heard some of what this skill might entail, but only rumors and guesses( I like to guess a ton myself, but often get way off track). Can you guys tell me what all you've heard about it?

With over 250 supporters now in the RS forums, I understand Jagex is giving the idea a serious look. I'd like to add the names from this forum as well, but I don't know the legality of it.

Look at all the ties to skills already in Runescape. It can tie in with each and every other skill. I wish people would stop with saying an idea is too big for Runescape to handle. That goes for every idea that has people saying that. You're telling me that A) RS is for the unintelligent or B)That the development team can't do it.

I don't PK..I'm too softhearted. But when I have to go to wilds to get a clue scroll or go to agility course, I get PKed out of boredom. BOREDOM!!!!. There's nothing to do out there and it's getting worse every day. No wonder they take potshots at us.

Extremely often when I come across new threads, I see players claim that the idea is "Not Medieval enough". In an effort to either back up those claims or dispute them if they're wrong, I will list medieval weapons not currently in Runescape. That's the first paragraph from this thread. Maybe I should have said 'EVERY SINGLE TIME' instead of extremely often. Players flame threads due to the not medieval enough reasoning.

Yeah, they released the Defender, basically a mix between a rapier and a baselard(2 of the about 50 medieval items I listed in my threads). I've never understood why there's no dragon claws yet. I mean..don't dragons HAVE claws? It makes perfect sense and so does having a dragon pick(Use a dragons tooth for the pick part). For several months, I've had a recurring thread in RS Forums on 'Medieval weapons missing in RS'. I don't know if they just based the Defender on the ideas there or what. A lot of people who posted in that thread expressed interest in both the baselard and rapier, but I still don't know.

You're claiming I stole my idea from this? Sorry man, but you need more details. But I support anyway. The idea is sound, just not the content. Want to make your idea better? Look up Pirates in the Wikipedia and also different types of ships. Trust me, you'll actually have fun reading the information. You'll be an 'old salt' in no time. Another thing to look up is the CULVERIN, A cannon present in medieval times. Contact me with a message and I'll help you do research. Don't worry, I'm not a boring historian but one that can make you WANT to learn. I first put my pirate idea in RS forums in September 2004 so if anyone's idea is plagiarized, it's mine.

Saying "Let's have boats and go sailing" is far different from the thread I've put forth here. I first put this thread on RS Forums in September 2004. I have no idea what puzzle pirates is(But since I'm overly curious, I'll be googling for that information). This is my own idea that I adapted from a PC game called "Port Royale". I only used it as a basis, which unless you're completely [developmentally delayed]ed, means that I used another idea for reference. In case you didn't know, using a reference lends credence to your suggestions, not that you copied the idea. I've seen numerous threads in these forums and most lack any detail or basis to make them legitimate threads. You need to do research so people will understand better. If you guys want to say this is like Puzzle Pirates, that's fine. But where did this game rip off it's ideas from? I'll tell you. Port Royale, Sid Meier's Pirates(I don't own the PC version of this, darn it...but I will) and the old Sega Genesis and Nintendo versions of Pirates Gold(Sid Meier's early years). And where did they get THEIR ideas? From history.

Yes, I know the idea sounds like they would never do it. But let's recall all the critics in history: "Why do you want fire? Isn't the cave good enough for you?" Critic of first caveman who discovered fire. "A personal Computer??? Computers are as big as a building and they'll always stay that way!!!" Critics of Microsoft. If we always had a negative attitude toward new ideas to the point we stopped even suggesting them, then nothing will ever change.

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I clearly stated that I do not support all these ideas. I also clearly stated I didn't want to see them all come in at same time. I also clearly stated that this is a pick and choose. You pick which ones you like and which ones you don't like.

Why did I bother posting it in these forums when I have over 150 supporters in no time on the RS forums? Because I wanted others to see the idea. Yes, I know the 'feel' of the wilds is to "PK others", but the whole point of my idea is that NOONE IS OUT THERE FOR YOU TO PK. I can literally walk from one end to the other and see noone. We've got to get players to WANT to go out there. What do you expect? Players to go back out there simply because you want them to, or for them to go out there because they have something they want to get.

Yes, I'm a member.

Yes, I worked hard researching these. As for Castle Wars siege equipment, if they're added then so should Castle improvements: Murder holes, moats, boiling oil, etc.(ooo..I just got a picture of someone assailing the walls and getting set on fire with boiling oil . knowing my luck I'll be the first one that falls victim to this.lol ). As for the rapier? I think the new Defender is basically that under another name. Either that or a cross between rapier and baselard. As for power, I couldn't include that as the post is already mega huge as it is. I also omitted about 50 items from the list, mostly shield and helmet designs. But if you read this and want a particular historical favorite added to the selection, simply say so and I'll do the research and the adaption to RS purposes.

Extremely often when I come across new threads, I see players claim that the idea is "Not Medieval enough". In an effort to either back up those claims or dispute them if they're wrong, I will list medieval weapons not currently in Runescape. Remember this though: I DO NOT SUPPORT THEM ALL. I'm listing them only to be fair. The ones I DO support I will put a message afterwards saying so. I also do not support Jagex mass putting in all of these at once. One at a time is fine with me. Even if the time between additions is months. For reference the 'Medieval period' is 500-1550 AD. To avoid further confusion, the period is ALSO CALLED THE MIDDLE AGES. Honestly, I think that Runescape shouldn't be only a 'medieval' game but also pre medieval(Roman Empire) and Renaissance. I DO NOT SUPPORT GUNS IN RS although I'm a card carrying member of the NRA. Cannons are a different matter entirely. Please, no flamers or spammers. If you like a particular item in this thread, you have my permission to post a thread of your own highlighting that item complete with my information provided here. I would also ask that anyone reading this thread immediately give me time to reserve some space to include all the items I want to put in. Thank you. WEAPONS: A RONDEL or roundel was a type of stiff-bladed dagger in Europe in the late Middle Ages (from the 14th century onwards), used by a variety of people from merchants to knights. The blade was typically long and slim, measuring 12 inches or more; the whole dagger might be as long as 20 inches. Rondel means round or circular; the dagger gets its name from its round (or similarly shaped, e.g. octagonal) hand guard and round or spherical pommel *This would be a 'long knife' instead of the daggers we have now. I do NOT support as our daggers are sufficient. The GUDENDAG was a Flemish medieval weapon. "Gudendag" is flemish for "Good Day". The Gudendag was based on a peasant's hammer, but proved effective against armoured knights, and was adapted in many ways, usually with [bleep]es, for extra effectiveness. By puncturing the skin, the Gudendag could be lodged in the skin for a while. Poison was also put on the [bleep]es. *A smaller warhammer with poison capabilities. Sounds good too. I support this addition. It is NOT A MAUL The MORNING STAR(Morgenstern or Sturmkolben in German) was a medieval weapon in the form of a [bleep]ed club resembling a mace, usually with a long [bleep]e extending straight from the top in addition to a number of smaller [bleep]es around the circumference of the head. It was used by both infantry and cavalry, and the horseman's weapon typically had a shorter haft. The mace, a traditional knightly weapon, developed somewhat independently, becoming all metal with heads of various forms, while the morning star retained its characteristic [bleep]es, with a shaft generally made of wood and often found in longer two-handed forms measures. *A mace with a longer reach basically. It IS NOT A FLAIL NOR IS IT A MACE. A flail is two sticks, a mace is just a [bleep]ed ball on a stick. A morning star is a [bleep]ed ball with a cord giving it a longer reach and ability to be swung and gain momentun. I support this addition. POLEARMS: The term LANCE has become a catchall for a variety of different pole weapons based on the spear. The name is derived from lancea, Roman auxiliaries' short javelin. The lance, under many names, was also heavily employed in the Asian steppe. In the strictest sense, the lance is a heavy, long thrusting spear used on horseback and couched under the arm on one hand. Often, any spear which is not thrown (e.g. a thrusting spear) is called a lance when used from horseback. *After further research, I discovered a smaller footman's lance that could be adapted to RS. Forget the horse one though. I Still DO NOT SUPPORT. A PIKE is a pole weapon once used extensively by infantry principally as a counter-measure against cavalry assaults. Pikes were extremely long weapons, carried by infantry and resembled a spear between 10 and 14 feet (3 and 4 meters) long. These eventually grew in size both in shaft and head length; the longest pikes could exceed 22 feet (6 meters) in length. The extreme length of this weapon requires a strong wood such as ash for the pole, which is often reinforced with two strips of steel running down the sides. *Again, since we don't have horses this might not be a good idea. BUt I included it anyway. I DO NOT support this. RANGED: A BOMBARD is a type of medieval cannon or mortar, used chiefly in sieges for throwing heavy stone balls. The modern term bombardment derives from this. A notable example of a bombard is the large Mons Meg weapon, built around 1449 and used by King James II of Scotland. Mons Meg was capable of firing 180 kg (396 lbs) shots and was one of the largest bombards ever built. It is now housed on public display at Edinburgh Castle. *Only use I see for this is of course, Castle Wars. That would be the only place I would support it except for castle decorations.(Not your own POH though) A CULVERIN is a medieval cannon of relatively long barrel and light construction that fired 18-pound solid round shot projectiles at long ranges along a flat trajectory. Round shot refers to the classic solid spherical cannonball. The culverin was adapted for use by the French in the 15th century, and later adapted for naval use by the English in the late 16th century. I would only support this in Castle Wars or if my pirate idea comes to fruition. The ARBALEST was a late variation of the medieval European crossbow. A larger weapon, the arbalest had a steel prod ("bow". Since an arbalest was much larger than earlier crossbows, and because of the greater tensile strength of steel, it had a greater force. A skilled arbalestier could shoot two bolts per minute. Arbalests were sometimes considered inhumane or unfair weapons, since an inexperienced crossbowman could use one to kill a knight who had a lifetime of training. Strongest windlass-pulled arbalests could have up to 5000 lb strength and be accurate up to 500 m. This would make the crossbow attractive again. We can upgrade them with mith, addy and rune..perhaps dragon. I Wholeheartedly support this. A SLING is a projectile weapon typically used to throw a blunt missile such as a stone. It is also known as the shepherd's sling. The sling is not to be confused with the slingshot, which works on completely different principles. *why we don't have this yet is beyond me. They've been around since forever. I do Support this SIEGE: Aa BATTERING RAM is a siege engine originating in ancient times to break open fortification walls or doors. In its simplest form, a battering ram is just a large, heavy log carried by several people and propelled with force against an obstacle, the momentum of the ram being sufficient to damage the target. *Castle Wars only will I support. The BALLISTA(Latin, from Greek ballistēs, from ballein "to throw", plural ballistae) was a powerful ancient weapon, similar to a giant crossbow, which ejected heavy darts or spherical stone projectiles of various sizes. It is considered to be the most complex weapon made before the Industrial Revolution and the only pre-industrial weapon to be designed scientifically. *Again, castle wars only A SIEGE HOOK is a weapon used to pull stones from a wall during a siege. *Castle Wars..again A SIEGE TOWER is a specialized siege engine, constructed to protect assailants and ladders while approaching the defensive walls of a fortification. The tower was often rectangular with four wheels and a height roughly equal to that of the wall or sometimes higher to allow archers to stand on top of the tower and fire into the fortification. *castle wars only will I support. A Trebuc©het or also sometimes called a trebucket (IP*: is a medieval siege engine, a weapon employed either to batter masonry or to throw projectiles over walls. *castle wars only will I support. GREEK FIRE(also called Byzantine fire, wildfire and liquid fire, Greek Fire was a weapon used by the Byzantine Empire. It was invented by a Greek Syrian in about 673 AD. It was employed in naval battles to great effect as it could continue burning even under water. "Byzantine fire" was largely responsible for many Byzantine military victories. *Castle wars and my pirate idea only will I support. WARSHIPS: A galleon was a large, multi-decked sailing ship used primarily by the nations of Europe from the 16th to 18th centuries. Whether used for war or commerce, they were generally armed with cannons. Galleons were an evolution of the caravel and carrack (or nao), for the new great ocean going voyages. A lowering of the forecastle and elongation of the hull gave an unprecedented level of stability in the water, and reduced wind resistance at the front, leading to a faster, more maneuverable vessel. The galleon differed from the older types primarily by being longer, lower and narrower, with a square tuck stern instead of a round tuck, and by having a snout or head projecting forward from the bows below the level of the forecastle. In Portugal at least, carracks were usually very large ships for their time (often over 1000 tons), while galleons were mostly under 500 tons, although the Manila galleons were to reach up to 2000 tons. Carracks tended to be lightly armed and used for transporting booty from the Far East, while galleons were purpose-built warships, and were stronger, more heavily armed, and also cheaper to build (5 galleons could cost around the same as 3 carracks) and were therefore a much better investment for use as warships **This can include ALL types of wooden ships. I support this for my pirate idea. The term GALLEY can refer to any ship propelled primarily by man-power, using oars. Most galleys also use masts and sails as a secondary means of propulsion *um..i feel these are a little 'before' our times. Do not support. Longships were ships primarily used by the Scandinavian Vikings and the Saxons for their raids on coastal and inland settlements during the European Middle ages. The longships were also used for long distance trade and commerce and were used for exploration missions to Iceland, Greenland, and beyond *we actually already have these..sort of. I do support. Baselard: A knife or short sword bearing a hilt in the shape of the letter T, originating in southern Germany during the late 13th century. It quickly became the weapon of choice for many footsoldiers. *Also known as a sword breaker. I do support. Bas©tard Sword: The modern word for a hand and a half sword. These blades, popular during the 15th century, were generally between 44" & 50" in length, but featured an extended handle that allowed the blade to be used in two hands, although it was short enough to wield one handed if required. *Yes, I do support. Broadsword: The general two-edged blade popular from the 6th century onward. Ranging in length from 30" to 42" in length, the average sword weighs only three to four pounds. Light enough to be used as a fighting tool all day, yet heavy enough to impart crushing impact along the edge, which was rarely sharpened. The weapons works by concentrating the force of the blow, the knight and the mass of the horse into the thin edge, often left to a thickness of between 1/16" - 1/8". The thickness at the center was between 3/16" and 1/4", and the blade generally started out from between 2-3" wide at the base and tapered gently to a point. *while not technically our two handed swords, I still say ours are enough. I DO NOT support. Claymore: The large two-handed swords popular in Scotland during the 15th, 16th and even the 17th centuries. Ranging in length from 50" to 72", they possessed handles that were 18" - 21" in length. Overall the swords weighed only six or seven pounds, although there are examples that are as much as ten pounds. These swords were popular also in Germany and in the Swiss states during the 15th and 16th centuries, although the term Claymore seems to have been restricted to Scotland. The term two-handed sword or greatsword seems more popular on the continent. *Again, while not a two handed sword like we have. Ours is enough. I DO NOT support. Falchion: A short, heavy, broad-bladed sword with a single edge, bearing a similarity to a heavy scimitar. *I do support. Gladius: The short thrusting sword of the Romans, developed originally in bronze but more effective in the later iron examples. These blades were short yet a little heavy, designed both for thrusting and for cutting in close-in combat. The gladius was modified for horseback into another, longer sword, the spatha, to which medieval swords owe most of their design qualities. *SInce this resembles our short sword we already have. I DO NOT support. The sabre (or saber) traces its origins to the European backsword and usually but not always has a curved, single-edged blade and a rather large hand guard, covering the knuckles of the hand as well as the thumb and forefinger. *I do Support A rapier is a relatively slender (blade 2.5 centimetres or less in width), sharply pointed sword with a blade at least 90 centimetres in length, often sporting an elaborate hilt and hand-guard. *I do support. Could lead to a cavalier class. A wakizashi (ÃÆÃâÃâ ââ¬â¢|ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâòÃÆÃâÃâî, Kanji for "side arm" is a traditional Japanese sword with a *****ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâèÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâí blade between 12 and 24 inches, similar to but shorter than a katana and sometimes longer than the kodachi *support The katana (ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâõ*) is the Japanese backsword or longsword (ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâôÃÆÃâÃâóÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâõÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâö daitÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâèÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâí) of the type specifically in use after the 1400s (following the use of the tachi), although in Japanese this word serves generically as a catch-all word for sword. Naginata (ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâäÃÆÃâÃâ¦Ã ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâäÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâîÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâäÃÆÃâÃâ¦Ã ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâäÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâÿ, ÃÆÃâÃâéLÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâõÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâö or ÃÆÃââââ¬Ã¹SÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâõÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâö) is a pole weapon traditionally used by Japanese samurai. It has become associated with women, and in modern Japan, it is studied by women more than men. The bill (also bill hook or bill-guisarme) was, in the 15th and 16th Centuries, the main close combat weapon of English infantry. Descended from agricultural billhooks and the pollaxe, the bill was a chopping blade with several [bleep]ing projections mounted on a staff of six or seven feet Spatha: The cavalry sword of the romans, between 36" - 40" in length, made from iron. The shape of the hilt is unknown to us, as only a few blades have survived. These blades can easily be confused with their Medieval counterparts, which were of approximately the same length and shape. The Roman footsoldier wielded a much shorter chopping and thrusting sword called the gladius. *Do not support. A flamberge is a sword (typically a rapier, though there were longswords as well) with a wavy blade, which, although beautiful to look at, also serves a practical function. When parrying with the blade, it can cause a series of unpleasant vibrations which can disrupt the technique of anyone who isn't correctly prepared. The name isn't entirely correct as it is a modern term for the form, and as such it is more properly called a "flambard" or "flammard". Also, a Flamberge is a large ZweihÃÆÃâÃâänder, a two-handed sword most commonly known from the Landsknechts of the 16th century and it, too, has a wavy blade. However its purpose was mostly for knocking away enemy pike- and spearheads (cutting of the heads is very hard as most had langets, strips of steel to protect them from just that) and chopping up the enemy hiding behind it, unlike the rapier which were more often used for personal combat than the battlefield. There is an area between the hilt and blade called the ricasso which can be used as a prolonged grip, which sometimes were wired with leather and had small protruding hooks called Parierhaken, meaning, literally: parrying-hooks Ringmail, or according to purists, ring armour, is a form of body armour, closely related to scale armour. It consists of separate metal rings affixed to a foundation of leather or cloth. It is debated whether it was ever used in Medieval Europe, despite some reasons to believe it was. In the 16th century in Europe a type of armour called an eyelet doublet began to be used. It can be classified as a type of ring armour. It was called "Schiessjoppe" in German. *I do support Scale armour (sometimes erroneously called scale mail) consists of many small scales. The material used to make the plates include bronze, iron, rawhide, leather, boiled leather, horn and even the scales of animals. There are many different methods of construction: Lamellar armour consists of scales laced together. A brigandine consists of scales riveted onto a backing of leather or cloth. A jack of plate consists of scales sewn onto a backing of leather or cloth. During Roman times scale armour (lorica squamata) was a very popular alternative to mail (lorica hamata) as it offered better protection, especially against blunt damage. It was also very popular in Middle Eastern empires such as Persia and Byzantium where scales were commonly dished (armouring term used to describe hammering a depression into a flat piece of metal in order to create a 'bowl' effect, as seen in the elbow and knee cops of the European Middle Ages) in order to benefit from the extra protection offered by a rounded scale. Historically, scales for such armour have been made of leather, bronze, iron, or steel; the use of a given material influenced primarily by the time period, geography, and purpose of the armour. The Byzantine-style lamellar corset is called klibanion. It was often worn over mail, or with limb protectors made from metal splints. Sometimes a quilted surcoat (epilorikion) was worn over klibanion. *I do support. Helmets: Armet is the name of a type of helm developed in the 15th century, most likely in Italy. It was distinguished by being the first helm of its era to completely enclose the head while being compact and light enough to move with the wearer. The typical armet consisted of four pieces: the skull, the two cheek plates, and the visor. *honestly, this sounds too much like our medium helms. I do NOT support. An aventail is a flexible curtain of chainmail on a helmet, that extends to cover the neck and shoulders. The mail could be removed for cleaning or storage, and attached to the helm through use of a leather cord that was threaded through brass rings at the edge of the helm. Aventails were most commonly seen on bascinets in the 14th century and served as a replacement for a mail coif. Some aventails were decorated with edging in brass or bronze links, or dagged edges. *Yes, I do support adding this to our current helms for better defense. A barbute is a visorless war helmet of fifteenth century Italian design, often with distinctive "T" shaped or "Y" shaped opening for the eyes and mouth. The barbute resembles classical Greek helmets and may have been influenced by a renewed interest in ancient artifacts. *nah. we don't need except for decoration purposes or something. The bascinet was a Medieval European open-faced military helmet, typically fitted with an aventail and hinged visor. It evolved from the cervelliere. The term is also written as bassinet or basinet *This helm is too close to our full helms except with this one you can't hardly turn your head to see. DO NOT SUPPORT. A hauberk is a shirt of mail armour. The term is usually used to describe a shirt reaching at least to mid-thigh and including sleeves. Haubergeon ("little hauberk" generally refers to a shorter variant with partial sleeves, but the terms are often used interchangeably.[1] ***** to accommodate horseback-riding are often incorporated below the waist. Most are put on over the head. Mail is a flexible cloth made of interlocking metal rings. Hauberk can also refer to a similar garment of scale armour. *since we don't have horses, this would be useless. Do Not support. The lorica segmentata was a type of armour primarily used in the Roman Empire, but the Latin name was first used in the 16th century (the ancient form is unknown). The armour itself consist of broad ferrous (iron or steel) strips ('girth hoops') fastened to internal leather straps. The strips were arranged horizontally on the body, overlapping downwards, and they surrounded the torso in two halves, being fastened at the front and back. The upper body and shoulders were protected by additional strips ('shoulder guards') and ******- and backplates. The form of the armour allowed it to be stored very compactly, since it was possible to separate it into four sections. During the time of its use, it was modified several times, the currently recognised types being the Kalkriese (c. 20 B.C. to A.D. 50), Corbridge (c. A.D. 40 to A.D. 120), and Newstead (c. A.D. 120 to 250) types. So far as is known, only legionaries (heavy infantry of the Roman Legions) and Praetorians were issued with the lorica segmentata. Auxiliary forces would more commonly wear the Lorica hamata which is mail (frequently called chainmail) or Lorica squamata (scale armour). It fell out of use during the 3rd century A.D., but similar armouring techniques were used during the 16th century, employing sliding rivets and this was known as Anima. *Ok, this at least would be different. Supported. Maximilian armour is a modern term applied to the style of early 16th century armour apparently first made for the Emperor Maximilian I. Maximillian probably used it himself when he was a young prince and presumably presented it to his uncle Sigmund[1]. The armour is characterized by armets and close helmets with bellows visors, small fan-shaped narrow and parallel fluting often covering most of the harness (but never the greaves), etching, work taken from woodcuts and sharply waisted cuirasses and squared sabatons. *This might be a better plate armor type for the future(1 or 2 years down the line in RS). I do support. The O-Yoroi (also called yoroi) is a prominent example Japanese armor. The term ÃÆÃâÃâô-yoroi means "great armor."[1] For the most part the O-Yoroi was a rich mans armor and not used by lower ranking samurai. O-Yoroi first started to appear in the 10th century during the middle and late Heian period, and came into widespread use in the Gempei Wars around the 12th centuries when the call for armor was at its peak. Significant aspects of this armor were designed for cavalry archers, so the armor fell out of favor in the fifteenth century when samurai shifted to mostly infantry tactics.[2] Do-Maru or "body wrap," was a type of medieval armor which first started to appear in Japan in the 11th Century, as a lower class armor for footsoldiers. Like the O-yoroi style it became more common in the Genpei War at the end of the 12th century. There were quite a number of similar styles and types of Japanese armor; the dō-maru is particularly defined by the absence of a solid breastplate or sleeves, and that the armor wraps around the body rather than being put on in sections. Do-Maru were constructed from small scales of leather or metal laced into plates with cord and lacquered. Then each plate where laced together to form the armor. *For both of these I'll support but only if oriental weapons come too.

Since Fall of 2004(I quit playing RS all of 2005), I've been running a pirate skill idea that tunes in with sailing. I included ways to make it possible as well. Only problem is that I really put a lot of detail into the idea and a lot of people won't read that much material. I also added the pirate skill idea to these forums.

Thank you for the support. Yes, I know wilds are for player PKing but let's face it. Nowadays, you either see noone in the wilds or an entire clan. I hear people say Wilderness Tag will invigorate the wilds..and I ask how? This might last half a day if that long. And what will PKers gain from players running around with Lightness boots and cheap food? Agility trainers tend to be very intelligent, and I feel they won't be doing this with all the other courses out there.

Pirates of the Runescapian: For people with short attention spans!!! Pirating skill= fun Trading=money Now for those of you who want to see a great new idea in itÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s entirety, please proceed. No flamers or spammers. Constructive criticism is more than welcome. This would be a skill combining seamanship, nautical lore, ship to ship combat, and of course looting those ships. The skill would tie in to virtually every other skill. You can even practice the unofficial skill of merchanting to profit in piracy. What I will do is explain the skill and try to cover all the bases that will make it work. Sailing these ships will require you to have the correct level. Of course, if youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re lucky and skillful enough to take a higher level ship than yours in combat, you can either keep that other ship for later or sell it to either a port(they always need ships for defense) or to other players. You level up this skill by several methods: 1) Sailing-This will involve taking your ship from port to port and trading. The xp will depend on how far you sailed and will be rewarded once you reach your destination. Also, the amount of good you risk and successfully deliver can affect the xp value too. (More about goods later). A section in this called SHIPS will provide more info. 2)Nautical lore-NPCs in Runescape can be sought out for teaching you various abilities, tricks, and stories. Nautical lore can involve using a sextant correctly, the various knots you can tie(literally hundreds of different ones), sailing over shallows etc. Each bit of knowledge you seek out and obtain will give you xp based on how hard it was to obtain. Some NPCs may even require tasks before giving you the information. 3)combat-successful ship combat or even if youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re unsuccessful can give xp as well. Treating each battle as a learning experience whether you win or lose, you can gain xp from each task you do when battling. (Lots more on this later in the section called COMBAT 4)Selling goods-You will gain xp based on how much cargo you move. A section on this later called GOODS will provide more information. 5)ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ

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I also see Jagex giving something new to Firemaking. Making it possible to use Greek Fire. Using fire in Castle Wars. There was a great suggestion that's been running a long time on TONS of new uses for firemaking. However, it will not benefit F2Pers.