rants forum

[Striker6]

why does the rants forum only archive 4 pages of threads while general board has about 70-80 pages going to 2005. While the rants only goes to the end of last month.

 

 

 

Any paticular reason for this concatenation that is a malapropism to my well-being? Hopefully there is a reason for this abomonation.

[D. V. Devnull]

I'll bet you it is because it is a forum that doesn't go to post count, and therefore would be something that Tip.It would prune to save disk space. :wink:

 

 

 

And BTW, I don't think you're going to be minus half your mind to lose a rant thread. I could be wrong. :P

 

 

 

~Mr. Devnull

[Albosky]

We don't prune to save disk space , we have 400x more space on our servers then we would ever need.

 

 

 

The reason being is that most rants are pure junk, repeated topics, topics that violate the rules, not really rants at all, the list goes on and on....

 

 

 

 

 

Would you prefer that we leave the last 25 pages full of all those locked topics that have zero meaning ?

[tripsis]

Adding onto what Albosky said, the way I see it, if there is a good rant on the Rants forum, it will stay on page one (or close to it). All the 'bad' or repetitive rants just die and fall into the later pages, and those are the ones that get deleted.

[Iamdan]

What about deleting the useless ones instead of just locking? Keeps the forum tidy.

[tripsis]

The problem with deleting threads instead of locking is that then users wonder where their topic went. So it ends up creating more chaos for the moderators (and users) when people make topics like, "Where did my post go?" or when we get questioning PMs.

[Iamdan]

Hmm, what about a trash can forum?

 

Instead of deleting the post, move it to a trash can and leave a note saying why it was moved.

 

 

 

The only thing I am not sure of it when the user clicks "view your own posts" would the link update itself to its new location or just come up with a "this topic does not exist" error?

[tripsis]

You mean a trash can that users can view? Even if we did that, there would be a 'topic shadow' left be hind in its place (so the user knows that his topic was removed, like you said), which is equally as irksome as locked topics. The only solution that I can think of, which I'm more than happy to do, is to just delete locked topics that are a few days old. That way, the author should have a chance to view their topic and see why it was locked. But it also means that the locked topic should be cleared out within a few days, making room for more topics to emerge in its place.

[Striker6]

Alot of the general board threads are recycled trash that people repost consistently. Why are they allowed to be kept for two years? Also tripsis even a good rant may drop below page 4 occassionaly, then its gone. Did you ever wonder that the reason you have to lock so many topics in rants is because when users search for a rant, only rants from the beginning of last month appear.

[Iamdan]

-Did you ever wonder that the reason you have to lock so many topics in rants is because when users search for a rant, only rants from the beginning of last month appear.

 

 

 

Most locked rants are because, to put it bluntly, the offending posters are idiots.

 

 

 

Topics with titles like "OMG!!!111"

 

and contain "OMG SUM N00B SC4MMD M33"

 

 

 

That may be only a slight exaggeration. I have honestly seen topics like that though.

 

 

 

Mostly people who didn't read the sticky or use common sense.

[Jake_Corsair]

Alot of the general board threads are recycled trash that people repost consistently. Why are they allowed to be kept for two years? Also tripsis even a good rant may drop below page 4 occassionaly, then its gone.

 

 

 

But Rants isn't really a fast moving forum. There is plenty of time to come back to a post that may be near page 4 and respond to it (putting it back to page 1).

 

 

 

If a rant is worthy, it will take longer. Also if something is that popular to discuss in rants, it should probably be in Debates forum anyway.

 

 

 

Did you ever wonder that the reason you have to lock so many topics in rants is because when users search for a rant, only rants from the beginning of last month appear.

 

 

 

The reason so many are locked has nothing to do with that. Most are because there is a sticky they can/should use or it isn't really a rant. I've never seen (or locked) a rant because there used to be a rant about it that got deleted.

[Striker6]

Alot of the general board threads are recycled trash that people repost consistently. Why are they allowed to be kept for two years? Also tripsis even a good rant may drop below page 4 occassionaly, then its gone.

 

 

 

But Rants isn't really a fast moving forum. There is plenty of time to come back to a post that may be near page 4 and respond to it (putting it back to page 1).

 

 

 

If a rant is worthy, it will take longer. Also if something is that popular to discuss in rants, it should probably be in Debates forum anyway.

 

 

 

Did you ever wonder that the reason you have to lock so many topics in rants is because when users search for a rant, only rants from the beginning of last month appear.

 

 

 

The reason so many are locked has nothing to do with that. Most are because there is a sticky they can/should use or it isn't really a rant. I've never seen (or locked) a rant because there used to be a rant about it that got deleted.

 

 

 

Plenty of time to respond, perhaps, however what happens in three monthes time when someone starts posting about a topic that has already been completely over done. There is no chance to bump up the thread meaning there is nothing to stop people from continually reposting the same argument.

 

 

 

I'm not talking about it getting deleted I mean what happens when it drops off the four page marker? You don't lock a thread that is practically a double, well I personally don't like looking through rants that have been debated a thousand times. If the page memory was extended people might not complain that the search button doesn't work in that section and we wouldn't see so many 'recycled' topics.

[tripsis]

You'd be surprised at how few people actually use the search function anyway to even try to find those threads :-w Whether or not there is actually an old thread that you could dig up with the same argument, chances are someone will post it, people will complain that it has been way over-done and it will get locked.. Either way we'll have another locked thread on our hands.

[Striker6]

Still, I am sure some people use the search function and when they fail to find anything from the beginning of last month they post, there's your problem. If it was extended mods might have some proof to stop repetitive topics. In theory with the existence of the search button an extension to the archives would reduce spam and more topics being repeated.

[Jake_Corsair]

But most of the "overdone" threads have been made into stickies, which never leave the first page. Yet, there are still plenty that get locked for not using the sticky.

 

 

 

And if someone comes along in 3 months and has a rant that might have been posted before (and is no longer there) can post a new thread. Nothing forces anyone to contribute to it if they feel it's been "done to death". As a matter of fact, not replying to it and letting it go will result in it being forgotten and falling off faster.

[Cruiser]

Even if the forum wasn't pruned and topics were allowed to build up, there would be so many repeat topics searching would be near impossible. Tack that on top of phpBB's crappy search and you'll never find what you're looking for.

 

 

 

I really don't see the point in a rants board for RS here either. Every rant I ever see (on top of what's on page 1 right now) is nothing more than a repeat of something that's been posted hundreds of times before. Personal opinions on why sucks, why sucked, why Jagex is wrong and or some derivative of those. There is rarely an actual issue brought up that's worth debating seriously.

 

 

 

There really isn't much room for complaining when the threads falling off Jagex's page 50 are no more than 24 hours old while the threads here span back nearly 3 months. If it hasn't been revived in 3 months its rather dead and not worth keeping on top of the multiple other copies that are bound to be posted.

[Striker6]

On the main page of the general board there are often 4-5 locked topics more than the rants board. I think it should be atleast increased otherwise this is a complete double standard. I'd also argue that often people put alot more effort into their posts than in general, yet they are gone within a month. While in general why do all the 'how many...[blah blah] do you have' get to be kept for two years?