Bones_Zero Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Yes, it is another Christianity thread. And it's here because in all the topics I've read, people are mistaking Christians for eitherthe rabid creationists who are desperately trying to prove that the earth is 6000 years old or Catholics who don't even know what they're supposed to believe. An example, from another topic - (1) The issue of free will: When God made man, he gave him free will so that man would chose whether to follow God or reject him. However this is where it fails, it says free will for every manÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ But thatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s not true, since not everyone has free will on this earth: A simple example of a baby being born with aids, and then dying 2 weeks later, where is his free will? I can accept that his parents had free will to have sex, but why should his free will be taken away from him? He suffers from their free will? That's right. The baby might not have lived to his life's fullest potential. But what happens to him? He never accepted Jesus, so is he really a Christian, which they believe will go to heaven? And that's the whole point of Jesus' death. [Note - I'm not trying to force this on you. The following is the belief of Christians, so take it as you will.] When he died for these humans that he created, he gave us that ability to be able to go to heaven. BUT WAIT! Creation didn't just happen like that! God didn't just MAKE Adam and Eve! And there lies the difference between creationism and intelligent design. Intelligent design shares with evolutionism the theory that life came from self-replicating RNA molecules which formed from amino acids. That process has been proven and reproduced TODAY, by the way. Sure, many creationists completely reject the idea of the Big Bang. But even if it DID happen, who are we to say that God didn't want to create the earth over millions/billions of years? lulz @ rs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Why not put this in one of the plentiful existing topics. . . ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hate to say I told you so... This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navyplaya Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Well then if Adam and Eve is just a nice story, why can't the rest of the bible just be a story? -All sigs by me.[My Gallery] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron8000 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Bring back the ban on religious topics tbh, I'm sick of having to defend the moderate majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I don't know, but the Christian God going through all that jazz when he could have just snapped his metophorical fingers and created Adam, Eve and the whole damn universe does not sound plausible to me. Why go through all that? Deception, something the christian God isn't capable of apparently. This claim sounds more suited to a deist than a Christian. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Who said most Creationists don't believe the big bang? Most theological scholars do. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutangFlu Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I beleive... i do not care these topics are ALL [developmentally delayed]ed rehashes that go nowhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones_Zero Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 I don't know but the Christian God going through all that jazz when he could have just snapped his metophorical fingers and created Adam, Eve and the whole damn universe does not sound plausible to me. This claim sounds more suited to a deist than a Christian. And who are we to say that if he did it, he would have done it instantly? lulz @ rs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 We arn't to say, i am only saying what sounds plausible. Since the christian God is perfection he must have been able to do it in less than an instant. The only reason i can see for going through evolution is deception, hence this is more of a deist theory. I dont think it neccessarily fits in with the Christian-Judeo God. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragen Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 This is the issues being discussed in this thread. Please use that one. Thanks Venomai for this super sig and Kwimbob for the awesome avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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