kelem_ryu Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 There has been some debate about astrology on this forum and as some might have noticed i firmly believe in the accuracy of astrology. That is so, because i think i can tell something about the horoscope of a person, once i know something about the person itself. So i thought it might be fun to make a little experiment. I'll insert the following here: This thread isn't there to discuss if astrology works or not. Here is how it works: You'll tell me something about you and your life and i'll make a statement about your birth chart. You can prove if the statement is right or wrong yourself, or you can give me your data and i'll verify or falsify it. This experiment avoids all subjectivity, because the statments i'll provide are destinctly true or false. Here's an example: BlueLancer is known to have inheritet a larger sum of money, wich he works on for a living. My statement is: His sun is in the 8th house. This statment is entirely astronomic and either true or false. To know what is the case, you can simply put his data into one of the numerous calculators on the web. The relevant data is: Date of birth, exact time of birth (+-5 minutes (to those who may wonder: the relevant point in time is when the newborn draws it's first breath.). you should be able to find the time either in your birth records or the records of the hospital you were born in. Usually your parents will know. As already statet: the time has to be exact), place of birth (doesn't have to be as accurate as the time. usually the closest bigger city will do) I'll use this site to evaluate any statements My expectations: I'll probably get some statements right, yet i'm not a particular experienced astrologist, so i might not be able to provide any statements at all to some descriptions. How many or how little right guesses i make the setup of the experiment only allows for positive evidence on astrology. If i hardly get anything right, this might just mean that i am a bad astrologer after all. If i get most statements right though, it would hve to be counted as evidence for the accuracy of astrology, since my statements rely on my knowledge of astrology only. Remember though that this experiment is mainly for entertaiment purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I've been playing the guitar for 5 years and went to a Lutheran highschool. I'm now studying chemistry and biology in university. I like rainy days and getting a chance to contemplate things by myself. Go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelem_ryu Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 I've been playing the guitar for 5 years and went to a Lutheran highschool. I'm now studying chemistry and biology in university. I like rainy days and getting a chance to contemplate things by myself. Go. Thank you for posting in the first place, but that's to vague. Unfortunately i can't tell exactly what kind of information i'm looking for. When i had the idea of this thread, i thought about BlueLancer, because living off inheritance was something i immideatly could associate with some kind of astrologic symbolism. In this case the 8th house. I'm tempted to make a statement based on what i know of you from all the discussion threads, but that would be too light hearted and i couldn't justify it in the context of this thead. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 You should not allow people to post their own descriptions because you could search the forums for posts on ages and birthdays and deduct it that way. People should buddy up with someone by pm and post here WITHOUT mentioning the username of the person whos personality you describe. Then we shall see how accurate astrology is, in this "not so scientific but better than the current experiment" test. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelem_ryu Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 You should not allow people to post their own descriptions because you could search the forums for posts on ages and birthdays and deduct it that way. People should buddy up with someone by pm and post here WITHOUT mentioning the username of the person whos personality you describe. Then we shall see how accurate astrology is, in this "not so scientific but better than the current experiment" test. We could do that (actually i don't care), but i can't find out birth time anyway. I don't quite get what you mean with "not so scientifc but better then the current experiment". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Analysis of the Birth Chart site you posted. Detailed correct statements are in green Vague statements applying to large numbers of people in black Incorrect statements in red. He is ingenious, sharp customer, discerning, crafty, diplomatic. To the point and subtle in speech, he is a real diplomat. Weaknesses: petty and over-critical. Over-attention to detail, nit-picking and fussy. He has a very good memory. Scientific or medical studies preferred above all others. He is humble and moderate, calm and reserved. Emotional discipline. He is willing to help, devoted and gentle. Weaknesses: servile nature, frequent changes of occupation, gets annoyed, upset, worries. He is too shy. He discusses, deduces and judges. He reasons logically and accurately. Weaknesses: he is easily irritable and nervous. He tells off and criticizes. He is impulsive and manic. Gives help to sick and old people. He is very devoted, does not show emotions: he is prudish and never lets himself go, either through fear of ridicule or through fear of not being loved in return as much as he loves. Always suspects the feelings of others. He is therefore sometimes too undemonstrative, so the other (thinking she is not loved) will leave. Weaknesses: likes to flirt and provoke. He is perfectly in command of his own feelings, which often lack passion or force. His love is never for free but must automatically bring a bonus, be it only an intellectual pleasure. Fights against principles, society or a philosophy. Reasoning, ability to explain things, logic and debate. Weaknesses: he goes to excess in the battle against moral or other principles. Has a somewhat revolutionary spirit, is intrepid but presumptuous. He has great professional aspirations. He likes to direct, organize. He is correct, virtuous, conscientious and worthy. Weaknesses: without doubt too avaricious, eager for gain. Observant, self-controlled, unforgiving, tough, methodical, a researcher, an investigator. Lots of courage, self-assurance and can keep his cool. Weaknesses: makes no concessions or compromises. He can become a fanatic of a creed, a party, work or a religion. He is shy, delicate but proud, bold and lively. Likes long voyages, things foreign, water. Brings changes. Forceful personality. He is strong-willed, authoritarian. He is self-confident but is sometimes arrogant. Has a happy childhood. His desire for self-development leads to success and he has a good professional job. Got bored of reading after that. Not much green in comparison to red there is there?... So everybody that was born in my town at the same time as me has the same personality. Both shy and bold at the same time. Mmmm. Methinks that the reason why theres so much information on that page is because its trying to get you to find the maximum amount of "hits" and to ignore all the wrong and general bits. Not impressed by my sign. Perhaps doing a reverse astrological chart you could work our where and when I was born? Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I mean that If Bubsa posts his personality here it doesn't take a genius or fraudulent astrologer for example to work out when his birthday is. If i posted Bubsa personality for him, the odds of anyone working it out reduces to chance levels (a one in 12 guess). Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelem_ryu Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 You aren't supposed to copy&paste discriptions from that site. Just say something about yourself and i'll see if i can associate it to an astrologic symbol. Btw the birth date is less relevant then most seem to think. Birth time and place are hugly important. The example statement can't be proven without birth time and place. Also don't call me a fraud. I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just making an experiment (or trying to) for fun. Although i'm grateful for any input on how to improve the experiment, you didn't have to smash a huge, irrelevant post right into my face just to derogate the whole topic. Analysis of the Birth Chart site you posted. Detailed correct statements are in green Vague statements applying to large numbers of people in black Incorrect statements in red. He is ingenious, sharp customer, discerning, crafty, diplomatic. To the point and subtle in speech, he is a real diplomat. Also the things painted in green are what you perceive to be not vague. I couldn't even tell if the greens are correct or not, however everybody can tell if the sun is in the idk 74th house in your birth chart (most likely it isn't, because there isn't a 74th house.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I've been playing the guitar for 5 years and went to a Lutheran highschool. I'm now studying chemistry and biology in university. I like rainy days and getting a chance to contemplate things by myself. Go. Thank you for posting in the first place, but that's to vague. Unfortunately i can't tell exactly what kind of information i'm looking for. When i had the idea of this thread, i thought about BlueLancer, because living off inheritance was something i immideatly could associate with some kind of astrologic symbolism. In this case the 8th house. I'm tempted to make a statement based on what i know of you from all the discussion threads, but that would be too light hearted and i couldn't justify it in the context of this thead. Sorry This would be easier if you knew which questions you needed answers to and specifically posed them, otherwise I'm just going to be rattling off stuff which I don't know the relevance of in respect to what it is you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelem_ryu Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 This would be easier if you knew which questions you needed answers to and specifically posed them, otherwise I'm just going to be rattling off stuff which I don't know the relevance of in respect to what it is you are looking for. You are right. This will lead nowhere otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 This man is way ahead of you ;) This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelem_ryu Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 This man is way ahead of you ;) #-o Someone close this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenValerie Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Someone close this already. Closed on Authors request. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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