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Ok, tonight i'm cleaning up my pc.

 

 

 

I simply CANNOT reformat as theres over 20gb of data i want on here, mostly my audio apps, music collection and custom photoshop stuff and work. so that's out of the question.

 

 

 

when you hit task manager on XP, does anyone have a list of all the stuff that *has* to be running? I'm sure theres stuff in there that doesnt...

 

 

 

Peace and wub,

 

 

 

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Post a HiJackThis log first, so we can see if there is any junk running that doesn't need to be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then google up your processes, and you should find sites that have a list of processes of stuff, and it will tell you if that process is needed, not needed, a virus, spyware, ect. When you google it I think it should be like Iamnotageek.com or something along those lines... well once your at the site you can look up any process just by typing in the name into the search field (sorry if that is a little vague, but I am sure another member of this forum will be able to clarify it a little better)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, check out http://www.blackviper.com for some awesome setups for windows 2000 and windows XP pro & home editions, his tips can elimnate uneeded processes and save you some precious RAM, which will also help you boot up quicker...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sorry if I made a load of typos... lol

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massive log...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




Running processes:



E:\WINDOWS\System32\smss[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\system32\services[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\Stardock\SDMCP[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\Explorer[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG6\avgserv[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\System32\CTsvcCDA[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\System32\gearsec[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\system32\CTHELPER[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Documents and Settings\OCUK\My Documents\Gazza\iTunesHelper[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\Messenger Plus! 3\MsgPlus[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG6\avgcc32[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\Winamp\winampa[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\WINDOWS\System32\MsPMSPSv[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security Center\SymWSC[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\mIRC\mirc[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs[Caution: ExecutableFile]



e:\progra~1\intern~1\iexplore[Caution: ExecutableFile]



e:\progra~1\intern~1\iexplore[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\PROGRA~1\MOZILL~1\firefox[Caution: ExecutableFile]



E:\DOCUME~1\OCUK\LOCALS~1\Temp\Temporary Directory 1 for hijackthis.zip\HijackThis[Caution: ExecutableFile]







R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://www.jidhjrpxecfvuuks.com/baNU2PBfJhhXXvroRrTTgVHpAYU10qkSk/JQjLJHreo10kJl2J7jmupc3JLgfFyo.asp



R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://red.clientapps.yahoo.com/customize/ie/defaults/stp/ymsgr*http://my.yahoo.com



R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.startnow.com



R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch = http://minisearch.startnow.com



R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,Default_Search_URL = http://minisearch.startnow.com



R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchURL,(Default) = http://red.clientapps.yahoo.com/customize/ycomp/defaults/su/*http://www.yahoo.com



R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page = E:\WINDOWS\about.htm



R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing



O2 - BHO: (no name) - {0171719F-B638-EBD6-B911-DBF08A0B79CB} - E:\PROGRA~1\CHICOBJ\Time Scr[Caution: ExecutableFile] (file missing)



O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - E:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 6.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll



O2 - BHO: (no name) - {5BEDD189-9DC1-A5E3-11D4-FDA500DF6CF8} - E:\DOCUME~1\OCUK\APPLIC~1\CHICOBJ\Time Scr[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O2 - BHO: PCTools Site Guard - {5C8B2A36-3DB1-42A4-A3CB-D426709BBFEB} - E:\PROGRA~1\SPYWAR~1\tools\iesdsg.dll (file missing)



O2 - BHO: CNavExtBho Class - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - E:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll



O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - E:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NeroCheck] E:\WINDOWS\System32\\NeroCheck[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [updReg] E:\WINDOWS\UpdReg[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Jet Detection] "E:\Program Files\Creative\SBLive\PROGRAM\ADGJDet[Caution: ExecutableFile]"



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTHelper] CTHELPER[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "E:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp[Caution: ExecutableFile]"



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "E:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched[Caution: ExecutableFile]" -osboot



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] E:\Documents and Settings\OCUK\My Documents\Gazza\iTunesHelper[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "E:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask[Caution: ExecutableFile]" -atboottime



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MessengerPlus3] "E:\Program Files\Messenger Plus! 3\MsgPlus[Caution: ExecutableFile]"



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Dale Live Nurb Ooze] E:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\sect rect dale live\Phone else[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG_CC] E:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG6\avgcc32[Caution: ExecutableFile] /STARTUP



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WinampAgent] E:\Program Files\Winamp\winampa[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Zone Labs Client] "E:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient[Caution: ExecutableFile]"



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [symantec NetDriver Monitor] E:\PROGRA~1\SYMNET~1\SNDMon[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [bluetoothAuthenticationAgent] rundll32[Caution: ExecutableFile] bthprops.cpl,,BluetoothAuthenticationAgent



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Peak iso default htm] E:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\TRUSTWIPEPEAKISO\DaleWait[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [sunJavaUpdateSched] E:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_05\bin\jusched[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [mapiball] E:\DOCUME~1\OCUK\APPLIC~1\IDOLHE~1\Eq Bolt Soft[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon[Caution: ExecutableFile]] E:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [solidCapture] E:\Program Files\SolidDocuments\SolidCapture\solidcapture[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Gamma Loader.lnk = E:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Calibration\Adobe Gamma Loader[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = E:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - E:\WINDOWS\System32\msjava.dll



O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - E:\WINDOWS\System32\msjava.dll



O9 - Extra button: ICQ 4.0 - {B863453A-26C3-4e1f-A54D-A2CD196348E9} - E:\Program Files\ICQLite\ICQLite[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: ICQ Lite - {B863453A-26C3-4e1f-A54D-A2CD196348E9} - E:\Program Files\ICQLite\ICQLite[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - E:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - E:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O16 - DPF: Yahoo! Chess - http://download.games.yahoo.com/games/clients/y/ct1_x.cab



O16 - DPF: {00B71CFB-6864-4346-A978-C0A14556272C} (Checkers Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/msgrchkr.cab



O16 - DPF: {14B87622-7E19-4EA8-93B3-97215F77A6BC} (MessengerStatsClient Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/MessengerStatsPAClient.cab30149.cab



O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} - http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/nocache/funwebproducts/ei/SmileyCentralInitialSetup1.0.0.8.cab



O16 - DPF: {2917297F-F02B-4B9D-81DF-494B6333150B} (Minesweeper Flags Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/MineSweeper.cab28177.cab



O16 - DPF: {30528230-99F7-4BB4-88D8-FA1D4F56A2AB} (YInstStarter Class) - http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/yinst20040510.cab



O16 - DPF: {39B0684F-D7BF-4743-B050-FDC3F48F7E3B} (FilePlanet Download Control Class) - http://www.fileplanet.com/fpdlmgr/cabs/FPDC_1_0_0_44.cab



O16 - DPF: {4C39376E-FA9D-4349-BACC-D305C1750EF3} (EPUImageControl Class) - http://tools.ebayimg.com/eps/wl/activex/EPUWALControl_v1-0-3-12.cab



O16 - DPF: {56336BCB-3D8A-11D6-A00B-0050DA18DE71} (RdxIE Class) - http://software-dl.real.com/26d034e4212651377920/netzip/RdxIE601.cab



O16 - DPF: {63DF43C2-469A-41F3-B119-17B1ACE8BB34} (Sony SNC-RZ30 Image Viewer) - http://151.204.174.22/home/SonySncRz30View.cab



O16 - DPF: {78AF2F24-A9C3-11D3-BF8C-0060B0FCC122} (AcDcToday Control) - file://E:\Program Files\AutoCAD 2002\AcDcToday.ocx



O16 - DPF: {8E0D4DE5-3180-4024-A327-4DFAD1796A8D} (MessengerStatsClient Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/MessengerStatsClient.cab



O16 - DPF: {A17E30C4-A9BA-11D4-8673-60DB54C10000} (YahooYMailTo Class) - http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/yse/ymmapi_416.dll



O16 - DPF: {AE563720-B4F5-11D4-A415-00108302FDFD} (NOXLATE-BANR) - file://E:\Program Files\AutoCAD 2002\InstBanr.ocx



O16 - DPF: {B8BE5E93-A60C-4D26-A2DC-220313175592} (ZoneIntro Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/ZIntro.cab30149.cab



O16 - DPF: {B9191F79-5613-4C76-AA2A-398534BB8999} - http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/suite/autocomplete.cab



O16 - DPF: {BD393C14-72AD-4790-A095-76522973D6B8} (CBreakshotControl Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/Bankshot.cab31267.cab



O16 - DPF: {C6637286-300D-11D4-AE0A-0010830243BD} (InstaFred) - file://E:\Program Files\AutoCAD 2002\InstFred.ocx



O16 - DPF: {E6187999-9FEC-46A1-A20F-F4CA977D5643} (ZoneChess Object) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/Chess.cab31267.cab



O16 - DPF: {F281A59C-7B65-11D3-8617-0010830243BD} (AcPreview Control) - file://E:\Program Files\AutoCAD 2002\AcPreview.ocx



O23 - Service: AVG6 Service (AvgServ) - GRISOFT s.r.o - E:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG6\avgserv[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Symantec Corporation - E:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: Symantec Password Validation (ccPwdSvc) - Symantec Corporation - E:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccPwdSvc[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Symantec Corporation - E:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: Creative Service for CDROM Access - Creative Technology Ltd - E:\WINDOWS\System32\CTsvcCDA[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: gearsec - GEAR Software - E:\WINDOWS\System32\gearsec[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: iPod Service (iPodService) - Apple Computer, Inc. - E:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: Macromedia Licensing Service - Unknown owner - E:\Program Files\Common Files\Macromedia Shared\Service\Macromedia Licensing[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Auto Protect Service (navapsvc) - Symantec Corporation - E:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: SAVScan - Symantec Corporation - E:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: ScriptBlocking Service (SBService) - Symantec Corporation - E:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\SCRIPT~1\SBServ[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: Symantec Network Drivers Service (SNDSrvc) - Symantec Corporation - E:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: Symantec Core LC - Symantec Corporation - E:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: SymWMI Service (SymWSC) - Symantec Corporation - E:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security Center\SymWSC[Caution: ExecutableFile]



O23 - Service: TrueVector Internet Monitor (vsmon) - Zone Labs Inc. - E:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon[Caution: ExecutableFile]







 

 

 

 

 

 

 

apologies for any warez etc, but i do have some on here, not gonna deny it :wink:

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we also need the top part of the log.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Make sure you scan with ad-aware, and/or spybot search and destroy. Both can be googled to download them. That will get rid of any spyware you may have, and make people's jobs alot much easier.

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Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1

 

 

 

Scan saved at 02:41:38, on 11/04/2005

 

 

 

Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)

 

 

 

MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that? I use firefox though...the latest update (not inc bugzilla)

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Its still needed because the IE version is useful for determining how up to date your windows is ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

E:\DOCUME~1\OCUK\LOCALS~1\Temp\Temporary Directory 1 for hijackthis.zip\HijackThis[Caution: ExecutableFile]

 

 

 

Ok before you do anything please save Hijackthis to a perminant location such as E:\Program Files\Hijackthis\ as it will NOT create backups when run from within the zip file.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

E:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\Stardock\SDMCP[Caution: ExecutableFile]

 

 

 

I notice you have Stardock running, well thats immediatly taking up a lot of space. Anything that "skins" the desktop is going to use a large amount of RAM in comparison to one of the windows defaults.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

E:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG6\avgserv[Caution: ExecutableFile]

 

 

 

You also appear to have AVG and Norton running? Having two AV's running at the same times causes lots of conflicts and could also be the cause of your problems. Uninstall AVG as Norton is much better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

E:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask[Caution: ExecutableFile]

 

 

 

Go into the quicktime options and turn it off so it doesnt show in the system tray. You can still watch Quicktime movies and stuff it just wont be always running in the background and only startup when needed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can also safely remove some of the following related to search bars and crap which could also be slowing your PC down as it attempts to "phone home"

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://www.jidhjrpxecfvuuks.com/baNU2PB ... JHreo10kJl 2J7jmupc3JLgfFyo.asp

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.startnow.com

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch = http://minisearch.startnow.com

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,Default_Search_URL = http://minisearch.startnow.com

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page = E:\WINDOWS\about.htm

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The following are spyware related or files that are missing/corrupt

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ O2 - BHO: (no name) - {0171719F-B638-EBD6-B911-DBF08A0B79CB} - E:\PROGRA~1\CHICOBJ\Time Scr[Caution: ExecutableFile] (file missing)

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ O2 - BHO: (no name) - {5BEDD189-9DC1-A5E3-11D4-FDA500DF6CF8} - E:\DOCUME~1\OCUK\APPLIC~1\CHICOBJ\Time Scr[Caution: ExecutableFile]

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ O2 - BHO: PCTools Site Guard - {5C8B2A36-3DB1-42A4-A3CB-D426709BBFEB} - E:\PROGRA~1\SPYWAR~1\tools\iesdsg.dll (file missing)

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Dale Live Nurb Ooze] E:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\sect rect dale live\Phone else[Caution: ExecutableFile]

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Peak iso default htm] E:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\TRUSTWIPEPEAKISO\DaleWait[Caution: ExecutableFile]

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [mapiball] E:\DOCUME~1\OCUK\APPLIC~1\IDOLHE~1\Eq Bolt Soft[Caution: ExecutableFile]

 

 

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} - http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/nocache/fu ... itialSetup 1.0.0.8.cab

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Try some of that for a start

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E:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\Stardock\SDMCP.e3e (CAUTION - executable file)

 

 

 

I notice you have Stardock running, well thats immediatly taking up a lot of space. Anything that "skins" the desktop is going to use a large amount of RAM in comparison to one of the windows defaults.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually that's quite untrue. Windowblinds (if he's running it.. SDMCP isn't windowblinds specifically, I believe it's the updater, can't remember for certain).. anyway, Windowblinds sometimes uses a negligable ammount more resources than the standard XP themes. Most times it actually uses less, or just as much.

 

 

 

It also doesn't run on top of the standard XP theming, it runs in place of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other programs such as DesktopX may take up a good bit more RAM, but Windowblinds, Iconpackager, etc don't make much of a difference.

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euhm... u might wanna borrow a dvd burner from a friend, hook it up, buy 10 dvds, and backup all ur data....... then FORMAT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's just stupid (but I'm sure we all realized that).

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