The_Noob261 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Well welcome to RuinedScape Where it will eventually turn into a Communist Game. I Agree with some of the concepts Jagex is doing be definatly disaggree with them. First off probably the biggest thing that affected I'd say 30% of the game. PKing. I myself have enjoyed Pking and own many pures, which i assume most players also have tried out making a pure/PKing at one time of their RS 'gaming'. I believe the last 4 years Jagex has been promoting PKing? They showed us the CB Triangle, Which is showing you how to make your char to the best of a PKer. It does not make sense to throw away your work the last 4 years. Plus side? -No luring -Stops players from finding a way around the Fair trade system/set prices Second off is the unbalance trade rules, which take affect Jan 1st 08? This will not allow the fair players who may have really good freinds in game and can share items/help each other on stuff. (i.e. quests/skills/ect..) I can trust a multiple freinds on rs and i often help them out by lending them better items to help them become better/lvl faster. Plus side about this? -No more Scams [trade must be within 3k of Grand Exchange value.] -No buying RS money/items. Plus updates: -Clan Wars/ Bounty Hunter (Many negative aspects though) -Deul Arena for f2p + 8 more bank slots for f2pers which they desperatly need. -They are Trying to make the game fair for the players who play and not cheat. Without PKing I don't see too much point to CB other than the mini games and skill capes. If CB isn't something people still do then expect price drops in runes/arrows/armor/food. Skillers and PKers are good for the RS economy as they keep the game in balance and provide a fun game for both types of players. I think they need to fix the game desperatly so it can be fair and make it not so much strict in set prices let the game be somewhat real and let the players determine the prices otherwise this game feels really communist to me and I'm sure many players would rather play a game where the economy isn't controlled so strictly. Personally I think Jagex is doing what they can and no one will know where they will take it from here for better or worse I'll stick around as many others will just out of curiosity. All we can do now is sit back give our best suggestions and watch too see what happens in the game. Many people may have quit now but it's their loss because they do not know that they could make a change with their suggestions or just waiting it out because trust me Jagex is going to make changes. Some people may not like or dissagree on but in the long run Jagex wants rs to be a fair game for those who are not cheating and hopefully they will make a way to add PKing/Staking/Merchanting back to the game w/out having others ruin the game for the rest of the true RS players. Leave constructive critisim/opinions. Thanks ^.^ -The Noob261 ~Retired Pure F2P: November 5th 07, With a 1,199 Total~ ~Perm Muted Since: October 2nd 07~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieeMania12 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 You know, you guys are kinda off-color when thinking this is a Communist Game. Who says games have government? Anyway, while these updates are disappointments, it keeps most of the bots from ruining the game (if the bots weren't there, we'd have our pking and duel arena staking). We should euthanize anyone who lacks the capability to contribute to society in any way.Please don't elect this man for president in 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Noob261 Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 Jagex is the government what they say goes :P so in a way there is a government there are laws (rules w/e you wish to call them) And if it's not communist then my bad..but it's definatly not Capitalism. -The Noob261 ~Retired Pure F2P: November 5th 07, With a 1,199 Total~ ~Perm Muted Since: October 2nd 07~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unoalexi Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Jagex is the government what they say goes :P so in a way there is a government there are laws (rules w/e you wish to call them) And if it's not communist then my bad..but it's definatly not Capitalism. -The Noob261 It's communist all right. You know, you guys are kinda off-color when thinking this is a Communist Game. Who says games have government? It's technically not communism, but more of an analogy for communism.. Here be dragons ^ Dragon of the Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieeMania12 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Jagex is the government what they say goes :P so in a way there is a government there are laws (rules w/e you wish to call them) And if it's not communist then my bad..but it's definatly not Capitalism. -The Noob261 But, is Jagex a country? Besides, its their game, they've created it and they can do whatever they want with RS. It's technically not communism, but more of an analogy for communism.. And..... We should euthanize anyone who lacks the capability to contribute to society in any way.Please don't elect this man for president in 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidus_77 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 It's technically not communism, but more of an analogy for communism.. Free market is the polar opposite of communism. Stop thinking "control = communism" because it's so much more than that. 76th to reach 99 Construction on 6th of February 2007379th to reach 99 Runecrafting on 4th of November 2007 Finally the secrets of goal achieving are revealed! (give my guide a read :^_^: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 It's technically not communism, but more of an analogy for communism.. Free market is the polar opposite of communism. Stop thinking "control = communism" because it's so much more than that. Yeah, the whole "Oh no, were limited, therefore this is communism" mentality is completly off. In an ideal communist state, everything is equal between people, regardless of their profession. Does every job make you the same ammount of money? No. Does everyone have an equal ammount of wealth? Once again, no. Untill it is impossible to make money independentaly, everyone has the same ammount of items, and you are given a fixed amount that is dependent on the total amount of money and the amount of people playing, Runescape won't be communist. Totalitarianism might be a better analogy for you to use. My statments may not be 100% correct, as I have limited knowledge on the subject. You do have valid points however. I liked how you put up the positives and negatives for everything, making your argument much more respectable. Yes, Jagex needs to make changes, like changing the 3k limit's and the 5% control on GE prices. I think that this was just a quick fix by Jagex though, and they will change their ways to be more "accommodating" to legitamite players. P.S. You forgot that combat can still be used for monster hunting :-k . [bleep] the law, they can eat my dick that's word to Pimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raven_gaurd0 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 You're right, it's really not a communism game, but remember, the riots are occuring right now, and in Russia the people overthrew the government. I vote we do the same. Or at least amend it. There are too many negative aspects, we can't ignore them, and we need at least amends that make merchanting and PKing possible. Please visit my thread if you agree, where we organize and rise for our rights. P2P - Power 2 Players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Noob261 Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 2. (often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party. Kinda communist in a way but i understand a little more on how people can argue that it isn't. :P The way i thought it as communist type of thing was that in a communist nation everyone does a job [Not necsisarily forced job] and the products were spread out to others who worked. So in RS it would be like i work to make armor and trade it for food supply or w/e and it's a fair trade within 3k of the value. As in capitalism i would have the freedom to sell more freely on the armor i made; for less or more doesn't matter. P.S. You forgot that combat can still be used for monster hunting Still think most people enjoyed combat for PKing/Staking as well as Castle wars and stuff idk though haven't really gotten into slayer yet as a f2p player for couple years you've fought almost every monster and don't really care xD. But then again I geuss Jagex made a fair trade and added in Bounty Hunter (which I think shouldn't have 'rouge' in it; or make a 'rouge' cave instead). Plus clan wars they added. So we know Jagex is STILL TRYING to make the game more enjoyable for f2p and p2p but hopefully a new type of PKing will be put back into the game. I liked how you put up the positives and negatives for everything, making your argument much more respectable. \ Stay in school xD always give the opposing side some positives. Thanks for the comments/opinions :] ~Retired Pure F2P: November 5th 07, With a 1,199 Total~ ~Perm Muted Since: October 2nd 07~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 This is technically just another rant that should go here in the sticky. Locked. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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