tablets

[SubDivi]

I would hate having to use bigger than 6*8. My strokes are generally small.. and I prefer to use my wrist, and not my elbow when drawing. ^ ^; Like I said, you should get one that fits your stroke size.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh. and it took me around 3 weeks to get used to mine. It's easier if you go from pencil to tablet as opposed to mouse to tablet. It's not meant to be a "better mouse", it's supposed to be a digital pencil. XP

[tttia]

Yeah the problem I have with dual monitors is that it throws the ratio off. It is not a huge difference, and if you watch the screen the whole time I suppose you compensate. But when you draw simply feeling the curves from the reference etc. then the cursor travels further on the horizontal axis due to it being keyed to cover the whole screen with the tablet length. The result is a skewed drawing.

[Keiphus]

The result is a skewed drawing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Only if you're drawing blind. The distort is very minimal and hardly even noticeable.

[tttia]

Yeah, that is what I said. when your drawing blind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are times when I stare at the reference and just move my hand. It works great with pencil, but not always quite as great with a tablet becuase of the slight distortion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And if you get your verticle twice the size of the horizontal it is not exactly slight.

[SubDivi]

Couldn't you just tweak the mapping? XP

[tttia]

Yes you can actually. You can map it to work on a certain area...say one screen, and then use the mouse for the other. But then that messes with the workflow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I tend to put my work that I am doing on one monitor, then my reference on another...so that would work fine for that....in fact...I am glad you reminded me I could do that!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But sometimes, especially when I use painter, I put the refrerence and some of my toolbars there. Painter has a lot of power but its interface is a mess. I think in version 8 and 9 they went to a slightly more ps-like one. But 7 and below (I use 7) has toolbars everywhere. And then it is a pain to have to switch to the mouse to access them.

[SubDivi]

I've never used dual monitors myself.. seemed like a waste; atleast for what I do. I prefer to work from visual memory. Sort of build a digital model in my mind and then draw from there.. though it's harder than it sounds.. atleast it was for me when learning how.

[tttia]

There are tons of books devoted to the subject. I am reading the classic (online no less) Andrew Loomis Work at the moment, "Figure Drawing for All Its Worth"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's focus is constructing the human figure without a model, and it comes from the 30's when illustration was at its height. No doubt you have heard of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You ever post any of your work? I don't remember seeing it around here at any rate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do some with models, some without. But observation is still the key to drawing without, so I am doing a lot of work from reference right now so that I can practice my concepts of anatomy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Incidentally, dual monitors can still be nice if you can stick all of your tool bars on one screen and just use the primary one for nothing but the image.

[SubDivi]

Nope, nothing that i'd call 'work' posted here; just some random crap. Im actually rereading a few of Loomis's books right now, funny you should mention it, and FDFAIW is one of those. Primarily because I recently got ahold of a archive file with all of his major books in PDF format.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Right now im working on the same thing I always have trouble with. Organic perspective, weight displacment, and muscle structure.. , and my constant struggle with skin tones.

[tttia]

Yeah I considered buying the out of print books on the web etc, but they were 120 bucks for the cheapest used one at Amazon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think ebay had them cheaper, but since there are several web sites that host them, and the pdf you mentioned, figured I would go cheap. I just print sections at a time and stick them in a notebook.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Several sites want the copyright holders to reprint...not sure why they don't. Seems they could make some money.

[Keiphus]

Tttia, I think you're the only person who doesn't look at the screen when they are drawing.... :-?

[tttia]

I am not saying I don't all the time. Just when following a nuanced reference curve. The more ya look at the reference, the more your results resemble the reference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But as it turns out I tried Sub's idea of mapping to the one screen and it worked fantastic. So I can still use my reference on the one and paint without looking on the other in symmetry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good idea sub :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Incidentally if you haven't already, do yourself a favor sub and get a SKETCHBOOK on Concept Art. you can get some good feedback, show off your work...even the anatomy ones...and it gives you motivation to draw everyday.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/

[Keiphus]

You like that word "incidently" don't you.... :o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I use the pen tool when I need a good curve... I'm a pen tool [bleep]... I would never draw anything. I scan it in + trace with pentool. That's the only way to go. Unless you are airbrushing and stuff, but for that a near-perfect curve is not needed. :)

[SubDivi]

I get the jist of what hes saying. I've even drawn (partial) contours with my eyes closed - and then go back and refine it to where I can settle. I pretty much never use vector in digital paintings because sometimes it's the minor flaws that give things the most character. Took me a long time to learn that though. :?

[Keiphus]

Which is why I try to stay away from realism. :lol:

[tttia]

I don't do much vector of any kind any more. I pretty much always air brush or just draw it in pencil. And I never liked Corel's version of the pen tool.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And as to your comment on another site keiphus, why would I draw with all opaque brushes? Seems like work to me. I might work in some traditional mediums, but that is a bout the only reason that I can think of to work with opaqcity at 100 percent.

[JD77]

can someone or does someone have or know where i can find an palm emulator for ipak? i cant find one i loocked in google and couldn;t find one

[tttia]

This thread seems to refer to a program that worked quite well on the pocket pc and allowed it to act as a touchpad or graphics tablet for your pc. However...everywhere that referenced it now seems to be saying it is unavailable....ie....microsoft probably bought it up and discontinued it so people will buy tablet pc's....just my cynical guess.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/ ... 9ba7623d21

[Keiphus]

Because pure opacity brushes make you build up color and create a more interesting look. They also require more skill. But the end result is worth it. You should try it out, it would look very cool.