Well, I am someone who enjoys both slayer and a fair bit of Pvp, I was wondering between the armadyl, and sara god sword, which would be better. I can easily just guthans or a bunyip, so I see that the sword wont help me that much, And since I alway go to pits, clan wars, castle wars. Is it any good there, regarding to hits and such? I understand that the armadyl is a bit overpriced, But i'm sure it will go down soon. I'm not to keen on spending an extra 20mil if the sara one is better.

I love my sgs but I dont do p2p or castle wars

I'd go for a SGS, if your guthans/bunyip isn't healing you quickly enough, a sgs can be reliable. I don't think the AGS special is worth the money.

I have spent quite a bit of time (around 550k tokul at the moment) in fight pits, several dozen hours at the dual arena, and a few dozen games of castle wars with ALL of the godswords. I can gve you this summary for PVP.

 

 

 

Zammy godsword: Decent for castle wars, but hard to catch the flagholder to spec him. I usually prefer to barrage. The spec is sort of useful in the fight pits for a quick KO if someone is at low health and you can't seem to hit - the accuracy boost from the spec is quite evident.

 

Bandos godsword: Fairly useful for fight pits and dual arena, but not that good for castle wars. The special seems to have been updated to boost accuracy, and it hits reasonably often and mid-high on high level players. It can really change the outcome of a fight, and is the one I currently use most.

 

Saradomin godsword: Not very useful for PVP, special is inaccurate and does not help much. It can be OK at the fight pits for healing off of low level players, but misses too much to be useful on high levels.

 

Armadyl godsword: Fairly useful for fight pits, dual arena, and castle wars. Very overhyped, as people do not look at it critically - if you would normally hit a 40 and spec, you will hit 50 instead. People forget that you would hit nearly as high normally, and quote the 78s as an example, but in reality you would hit 62-63 anyway. As an average, eveen with hitting, a special will boost your hit by around 7, with maxed strength bonus and piety, super setted and 99 strength. In reality, a special is raising your average hit about 6. Whee. Fun, but not all that useful, considering that about 70% of your hits on a high level player are 0s.

 

 

 

For slayer (Spent around 25 hours slaying with the godswords)

 

Don't bother. Zammy, Bandos, and Armadyl all are far out hit by a whip + defender, and the SGS spec is so overrated I can't even begin to describe it. Perhaps I was expecting too much, but I've found that any monster my unicorn won't heal me enough on (waterfiends for example), the SGS would help very little. I frequently specced 0s on waterfiends, even after trying all 3 attack styles. Most other monsters were not high enough level for me to need it, and it did not really help at GWD (freqent misses, little healing).

 

 

 

Summary:

 

ZGS - Not that useful for spec, even on flagholder

 

BGS - Fairly useful in many PVP or boss hunting situations; worthless for slayer

 

SGS - Fairly useless in PVP; not that useful for slayer

 

AGS - Boosts hit by 6 or so each spec, usually hits 0 on high levels in barrows armor

 

 

 

My personal recommendation - Barrage rock lobsters for charms, train summoning to 88 and get a unicorn. \ . As for godswords, get a BGS, but leave it in the bank for slayer. Feel free to respond with questions.

Any godsword is fine in pits/cw the spec just helps out a bit. Like, I can still hit 50's with SGS w/o spec. SGS is awesome because you can use piety during tasks and just spec to get prayer back

Thanks for your PM, Chuz, but I'm going to put this up here so that it may answer others questions as well.

 

 

 

Thank you very much on your input!

 

 

 

So with 95-120Mil as my budget, I was going to settle on a whip, dfs, and a ags. Do you think I would be better off buying a bgs, bandos, dfs, and then the rest on summoning?

 

 

 

[begin controversial advice based on facts]

 

 

 

Well, if you plan on slaying\PVP here is my advice. First of all, don't get bandos for slayer - use proslyte top\veracs skirt and pray +10% strength for significantly faster kills at a much reduced cost (with a large prayer bonus, your prayer points drain very slowly - I can do most tasks with 4 or less prayer pots), so the prayer potion cost\hassle is negligible. As for DFS, only use it for range\mage in PVP - for slayer, rune defender is far better. Your bunyip or unicorn will heal you more then you will need, and even so the DFS defence bonuses really don't help all that much. Trust me, I've owned one for several months, and while I love it for mage\range, tests I've done have proven that defender is superior for melee in all situations.

 

 

 

Buy your BGS and spend the rest on summoning would be my (controversial) advice, leaving yourself with around 10m to play with. If you have decent cash flow, bursting lobsters is better then waterfiends for time spent overall (earning money + getting charms), and if you have a significant income (1m+), barraging is better still. 70M may not get you all the way to 88 bursting, but it will be fairly close, and you should be able to make the money back. Believe me, spending 150M on 88 summoning was the best investment I've ever made, and I haven't even gotten the pack yak yet!

 

 

 

[end controversial but sound advice]

Any godsword is fine in pits/cw the spec just helps out a bit. Like, I can still hit 50's with SGS w/o spec. SGS is awesome because you can use piety during tasks and just spec to get prayer back

 

 

 

Don't use godsword for PVP melee at pits - Veracs will easily beat it on higher defence\better armored players. It is the best wepon for CW, though. SGS heals on average 15 prayer points and 30 hitpoints per 5 minutes on low-mid defence monsters, so it won't help that much with piety (60 max hit / 2 = 30 average hit, = 7.5 prayer points - 20% deduction for missing X minimum 5 prayer restore = 7.5 average prayer heal, X 2 specs = 15 per 5 minutes, X 2 = 30 HP). It becomes much worse on higher level monsters where you miss half or more of the time. While this may help a bit with high level monsters, remember that the HP recovery will be 1/2 to 1/3 as much - only 2-3 HP a minute, or 1/4 to 1/3 boost to a bunyip. Marginally useful, but certainly not a huge benefit (Compare that to unicorn, which dosn't cost much more but requires time, which heals in the range of 22 hp a minute - nearly 3 times what bunyip does, and over 7 times as much as SGS on low defence monsters.

I forgot to mention, that I would also like to buy some decent melee armour, so bandos, but I am currently using verac skirt and dharock top, so I dont know if I want to do that.

Well Compfreak, I'm not sure if you've had horrible luck or I've had good luck or what, but I noticed pretty much the opposite of what you had said about the accuracy of SGS and BGS special attacks...

 

 

 

The biggest part of the SGS spec for me(other than in duels) is the prayer restore, because it allows you to piety flash on every task without any extra spaces wasted, also it is by far the most useful one to have at DKs.

 

 

 

I just do duels for a while when I'm bored and use veracs(SGS spec after I take a hit or 2) and from what I've seen it is much much more useful than an AGS. So far I'm 13-2 against AGS users at duels with all the extra bits off, but I'm betting that a lot of that was luck.

 

 

 

I've never used an AGS(I was never very impressed from the descriptions and what I heard of the experiences of other people) and the only time that I used a ZGS was to ice cube gaurds around edgeville for fun...I never missed an ice spec though...if that matters.

Well Compfreak, I'm not sure if you've had horrible luck or I've had good luck or what, but I noticed pretty much the opposite of what you had said about the accuracy of SGS and BGS special attacks...

 

 

 

The biggest part of the SGS spec for me(other than in duels) is the prayer restore, because it allows you to piety flash on every task without any extra spaces wasted, also it is by far the most useful one to have at DKs.

 

 

 

I just do duels for a while when I'm bored and use veracs(SGS spec after I take a hit or 2) and from what I've seen it is much much more useful than an AGS. So far I'm 13-2 against AGS users at duels with all the extra bits off, but I'm betting that a lot of that was luck.

 

 

 

I've never used an AGS(I was never very impressed from the descriptions and what I heard of the experiences of other people) and the only time that I used a ZGS was to ice cube gaurds around edgeville for fun...I never missed an ice spec though...if that matters.

 

I'm not so sure you can attribute what I said to "luck", I've methodically tested all of them :

 

 

 

Like I said, AGS really isn't that good for much of anything - +6-7 extra damage isn't going to help a whole lot. Duals don't count - most people don't take duals seriously. I've won upwards of 99% of my duals, simply because I pot and use the best armor\tactics. SGS does not allow piety flash on every task, nor anywhere close. You use much more then 3 prayer points per minute with whip + piety, even with flashing. Besides that, its a horribly painful method, having to click 4 times every 3 seconds just for piety. Just go with +10% strength and click on a prayer potion every couple of minutes :wall:

 

 

 

SGS is fairly useful for DKS, or so I've heard (haven't tried, unicorn works fine for me...), but if you get a unicorn for a slightly higher price you'll have 9x the healing of SGS. ZGS spec has decent accuracy boost, but you wouldn't notice that on guards.

I forgot to mention, that I would also like to buy some decent melee armour, so bandos, but I am currently using verac skirt and dharock top, so I dont know if I want to do that.

 

Barrows armor destroys bandos in every way - if you want strength bonus, wear v skirt + proslyte top and pray +5-10% strength pray. Verac skirt\dh top already provides more prayer bonus, and FAR more slash defence then bandos, nowhere close to being worth +6 strength bonus.

Sadly, the SGS isn't what it once was. Now with summoning, you can easily heal. The only merits in an SGS is:

 

 

 

* Prayer, 10% stregnth through most, if not the whole task.

 

* If you're using a Bunyip, you don't need the hp. But if you have a high enough summoning lv (89+) and you want to use a Geyser titan, go ahead and use it. Here the SGS spec become very useful, as it becomes your secondary healing source, next to food.

 

 

 

I would get a SGS, but thats just me. I would get a BGS and a whip, BGS for pvp, and whip for training. It's also the cheapest godswords, although it's far better than Zammy.

Sadly, the SGS isn't what it once was. Now with summoning, you can easily heal. The only merits in an SGS is:

 

 

 

* Prayer, 10% stregnth through most, if not the whole task.

 

* If you're using a Bunyip, you don't need the hp. But if you have a high enough summoning lv (89+) and you want to use a Geyser titan, go ahead and use it. Here the SGS spec become very useful, as it becomes your secondary healing source, next to food.

 

 

 

I would get a SGS, but thats just me. I would get a BGS and a whip, BGS for pvp, and whip for training. It's also the cheapest godswords, although it's far better than Zammy.

 

+10% strength all the time from SGS? No way, even with maxed prayer bonus. SGS is way, way overrated. I suppose it had to do with high expectations, but when I first used it I thought I was experiencing a glitch of some sort.