Hey, today I noticed an office being added to my account, I can see why it could be mistaken for an offense but it was just a slight misunderstanding. I try to appeal it and learn that it has been deferred, I looked at what this "deferred" meant and why it existed, I was astonished. It is a simple Catch-22, I cannot appeal my short-term mute unless I break more rules, hardly seemed fair to me. I cannot improve my account status unless I worsen my current condition, then I will be given the right to defend myself. I realize there are no long term implications, however, I still feel it is a tad ridiculous that I am not given a chance to defend myself and have my record purged, and to me having a blemished record is a long term implication.

 

 

 

If anyone else feels the same way please discuss, and to the grou of people who I know will want to say I'm just whining... Please don't.

Deferred, in accounting, is any account where the asset or liability is not realized until a future date, e.g. annuities, charges, taxes, income ...

 

Wait... so they won't let you appeal it until your unmuted again?

 

 

 

If so, that's annoying, but what's the offense? The few times I've been unfairly muted I was able to quickly appeal and lift the mute...

Deferred, in accounting, is any account where the asset or liability is not realized until a future date, e.g. annuities, charges, taxes, income ...

 

Wait... so they won't let you appeal it until your unmuted again?

 

 

 

If so, that's annoying, but what's the offense? The few times I've been unfairly muted I was able to quickly appeal and lift the mute...

 

They will never let me appeal it unless I do more offenses, and the offense was rule 1.

Deferred, in accounting, is any account where the asset or liability is not realized until a future date, e.g. annuities, charges, taxes, income ...

 

Wait... so they won't let you appeal it until your unmuted again?

 

 

 

If so, that's annoying, but what's the offense? The few times I've been unfairly muted I was able to quickly appeal and lift the mute...

 

They will never let me appeal it unless I do more offenses, and the offense was rule 1.

 

What do you mean? There's no 'appeal offense' link or what?

Deferred, in accounting, is any account where the asset or liability is not realized until a future date, e.g. annuities, charges, taxes, income ...

 

Wait... so they won't let you appeal it until your unmuted again?

 

 

 

If so, that's annoying, but what's the offense? The few times I've been unfairly muted I was able to quickly appeal and lift the mute...

 

They will never let me appeal it unless I do more offenses, and the offense was rule 1.

 

What do you mean? There's no 'appeal offense' link or what?

 

In the place where it would be there is "Deferred".

I had the exact same thing happen to me when we were joking around in Lightning's chat. I still can't appeal it until I get 2 more Blackmarks. This makes no sense :wall:

I had the exact same thing happen to me when we were joking around in Lightning's chat. I still can't appeal it until I get 2 more Blackmarks. This makes no sense :wall:

 

Hence the term Catch-22, it's a ridiculous idea that gives more freedom to those with higher amounts of blackmarks, personally I would like to appeal as you go.

I had the exact same thing happen to me when we were joking around in Lightning's chat. I still can't appeal it until I get 2 more Blackmarks. This makes no sense :wall:

 

Hence the term Catch-22, it's a ridiculous idea that gives more freedom to those with higher amounts of blackmarks, personally I would like to appeal as you go.

 

Odd, I've never heard of it. Sounds annoying though, but at least you can't get banned...

There is no need to appeal offences when your account is in the green zone, as this will not have a noticeable impact on your game play experience. If you do happen to commit enough offences to leave the green zone (and be punished more harshly), then you will have the opportunity to appeal all of the previously unappealable offences that had been applied to your account.

 

 

 

We all want our Jagex Moderators to be able to spend more time in-game and on the forums supporting all of our players than investigating offence appeals for accounts safely in the green zone that are not at risk of significant punishment.

 

 

 

http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... cle_id=728

 

 

 

Makes perfect sense.

 

No one but you can see black marks, and the only time it matters is when your close to being banned, in which you will be able to do it, like the system says.

There is no need to appeal offences when your account is in the green zone, as this will not have a noticeable impact on your game play experience. If you do happen to commit enough offences to leave the green zone (and be punished more harshly), then you will have the opportunity to appeal all of the previously unappealable offences that had been applied to your account.

 

 

 

We all want our Jagex Moderators to be able to spend more time in-game and on the forums supporting all of our players than investigating offence appeals for accounts safely in the green zone that are not at risk of significant punishment.

 

 

 

http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... cle_id=728

 

 

 

Makes perfect sense.

 

No one but you can see black marks, and the only time it matters is when your close to being banned, in which you will be able to do it, like the system says.

 

 

 

Appeals are checked usually by bots, not jmods. It doesn't make much sense to me that I need to be closed to banned before I am given a chance to redeem myself. And jagex moderators can also see how many black marks I have,just so you know :mrgreen:. Anywho, The system would suggest that innocent players have to endure the knowledge that they have been muted(or reprimanded) unfairly and that there is nothing they can do about it,seems unfair to me.

There is no need to appeal offences when your account is in the green zone, as this will not have a noticeable impact on your game play experience. If you do happen to commit enough offences to leave the green zone (and be punished more harshly), then you will have the opportunity to appeal all of the previously unappealable offences that had been applied to your account.

 

 

 

We all want our Jagex Moderators to be able to spend more time in-game and on the forums supporting all of our players than investigating offence appeals for accounts safely in the green zone that are not at risk of significant punishment.

 

 

 

http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... cle_id=728

 

 

 

Makes perfect sense.

 

No one but you can see black marks, and the only time it matters is when your close to being banned, in which you will be able to do it, like the system says.

 

 

 

Appeals are checked usually by bots, not jmods. It doesn't make much sense to me that I need to be closed to banned before I am given a chance to redeem myself. And jagex moderators can also see how many black marks I have,just so you know :mrgreen:. Anywho, The system would suggest that innocent players have to endure the knowledge that they have been muted(or reprimanded) unfairly and that there is nothing they can do about it,seems unfair to me.

 

Then either Jagex has some sort of Turing-beating superbots hidden in their towers, or they have a mod check over reports and simply automate the responses. In my experience they have always been accurate and true; I get stuck with things I really did, no matter how eloquent the appeal (yeah, I've tried), but they also clear up incorrect reports quickly.

There is no need to appeal offences when your account is in the green zone, as this will not have a noticeable impact on your game play experience. If you do happen to commit enough offences to leave the green zone (and be punished more harshly), then you will have the opportunity to appeal all of the previously unappealable offences that had been applied to your account.

 

 

 

We all want our Jagex Moderators to be able to spend more time in-game and on the forums supporting all of our players than investigating offence appeals for accounts safely in the green zone that are not at risk of significant punishment.

 

 

 

http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... cle_id=728

 

 

 

Makes perfect sense.

 

No one but you can see black marks, and the only time it matters is when your close to being banned, in which you will be able to do it, like the system says.

 

 

 

Appeals are checked usually by bots, not jmods. It doesn't make much sense to me that I need to be closed to banned before I am given a chance to redeem myself. And jagex moderators can also see how many black marks I have,just so you know :mrgreen:. Anywho, The system would suggest that innocent players have to endure the knowledge that they have been muted(or reprimanded) unfairly and that there is nothing they can do about it,seems unfair to me.

 

Then either Jagex has some sort of Turing-beating superbots hidden in their towers, or they have a mod check over reports and simply automate the responses. In my experience they have always been accurate and true; I get stuck with things I really did, no matter how eloquent the appeal (yeah, I've tried), but they also clear up incorrect reports quickly.

 

Really? It's always the opposite for me, I have been able to appeal 1 offence and it was denied, turned out "death to juice" is offensive language. :lol:

There is no need to appeal offences when your account is in the green zone, as this will not have a noticeable impact on your game play experience. If you do happen to commit enough offences to leave the green zone (and be punished more harshly), then you will have the opportunity to appeal all of the previously unappealable offences that had been applied to your account.

 

 

 

We all want our Jagex Moderators to be able to spend more time in-game and on the forums supporting all of our players than investigating offence appeals for accounts safely in the green zone that are not at risk of significant punishment.

 

 

 

http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... cle_id=728

 

 

 

Makes perfect sense.

 

No one but you can see black marks, and the only time it matters is when your close to being banned, in which you will be able to do it, like the system says.

 

 

 

Appeals are checked usually by bots, not jmods. It doesn't make much sense to me that I need to be closed to banned before I am given a chance to redeem myself. And jagex moderators can also see how many black marks I have,just so you know :mrgreen:. Anywho, The system would suggest that innocent players have to endure the knowledge that they have been muted(or reprimanded) unfairly and that there is nothing they can do about it,seems unfair to me.

 

Then either Jagex has some sort of Turing-beating superbots hidden in their towers, or they have a mod check over reports and simply automate the responses. In my experience they have always been accurate and true; I get stuck with things I really did, no matter how eloquent the appeal (yeah, I've tried), but they also clear up incorrect reports quickly.

 

Really? It's always the opposite for me, I have been able to appeal 1 offence and it was denied, turned out "death to juice" is offensive language. :lol:

That's because the Brits really, REALLY, love their juice.

dude its alright it the reason you cant appeal is cause its only 24hr mute and your account is in the greenzone meaning once your time is done no history of that offence will be left on your account

dude its alright it the reason you cant appeal is cause its only 24hr mute and your account is in the greenzone meaning once your time is done no history of that offence will be left on your account

 

Actually that isn't true, the deferred marks are still left on my account, I am not able to appeal their cause, and if I ever get like 7 black marks I will be able to appeal them, they do count.

dude its alright it the reason you cant appeal is cause its only 24hr mute and your account is in the greenzone meaning once your time is done no history of that offence will be left on your account

 

Actually that isn't true, the deferred marks are still left on my account, I am not able to appeal their cause, and if I ever get like 7 black marks I will be able to appeal them, they do count.

 

I'm afraid you missed his point. They will count if you have 7, but you can then appeal them; the number of blackmarks does not matter unless it exceeds 10 and you are banned, so you never have to worry about this offense besides the inconvenience of the mute.

dude its alright it the reason you cant appeal is cause its only 24hr mute and your account is in the greenzone meaning once your time is done no history of that offence will be left on your account

 

Actually that isn't true, the deferred marks are still left on my account, I am not able to appeal their cause, and if I ever get like 7 black marks I will be able to appeal them, they do count.

 

I'm afraid you missed his point. They will count if you have 7, but you can then appeal them; the number of blackmarks does not matter unless it exceeds 10 and you are banned, so you never have to worry about this offense besides the inconvenience of the mute.

 

Nah I got the point of his post. If you read my earlier post I think having blemishes on my record is fairly frustrating with the only way of removing them being to put more blackmarks, this is the point of my post.

dude its alright it the reason you cant appeal is cause its only 24hr mute and your account is in the greenzone meaning once your time is done no history of that offence will be left on your account

 

Actually that isn't true, the deferred marks are still left on my account, I am not able to appeal their cause, and if I ever get like 7 black marks I will be able to appeal them, they do count.

 

I'm afraid you missed his point. They will count if you have 7, but you can then appeal them; the number of blackmarks does not matter unless it exceeds 10 and you are banned, so you never have to worry about this offense besides the inconvenience of the mute.

 

Nah I got the point of his post. If you read my earlier post I think having blemishes on my record is fairly frustrating with the only way of removing them being to put more blackmarks, this is the point of my post.

 

What do you mean by 'blemishes on your record'? The only person that can see them is you...

dude its alright it the reason you cant appeal is cause its only 24hr mute and your account is in the greenzone meaning once your time is done no history of that offence will be left on your account

 

Actually that isn't true, the deferred marks are still left on my account, I am not able to appeal their cause, and if I ever get like 7 black marks I will be able to appeal them, they do count.

 

I'm afraid you missed his point. They will count if you have 7, but you can then appeal them; the number of blackmarks does not matter unless it exceeds 10 and you are banned, so you never have to worry about this offense besides the inconvenience of the mute.

 

Nah I got the point of his post. If you read my earlier post I think having blemishes on my record is fairly frustrating with the only way of removing them being to put more blackmarks, this is the point of my post.

 

What do you mean by 'blemishes on your record'? The only person that can see them is you...

 

This is true, it does not,however, make it less frustrating that they cannot be removed.

dude its alright it the reason you cant appeal is cause its only 24hr mute and your account is in the greenzone meaning once your time is done no history of that offence will be left on your account

 

Actually that isn't true, the deferred marks are still left on my account, I am not able to appeal their cause, and if I ever get like 7 black marks I will be able to appeal them, they do count.

 

I'm afraid you missed his point. They will count if you have 7, but you can then appeal them; the number of blackmarks does not matter unless it exceeds 10 and you are banned, so you never have to worry about this offense besides the inconvenience of the mute.

 

Nah I got the point of his post. If you read my earlier post I think having blemishes on my record is fairly frustrating with the only way of removing them being to put more blackmarks, this is the point of my post.

 

What do you mean by 'blemishes on your record'? The only person that can see them is you...

 

This is true, it does not,however, make it less frustrating that they cannot be removed.

 

It should; there's really no reason for them to be removed as it is. It's confusing that they did that, but I don't really see the problem with it.

What I'm ranting about is the system of of jagex's deferral of undeserved black-marks, not whether or not I should be frustrated, I am, and I find the system flawed hence the rant.

What I'm ranting about is the system of of jagex's deferral of undeserved black-marks, not whether or not I should be frustrated, I am, and I find the system flawed hence the rant.

 

But it doesn't affect you in any way; it is neither inconvenient nor time wasting.

What I'm ranting about is the system of of jagex's deferral of undeserved black-marks, not whether or not I should be frustrated, I am, and I find the system flawed hence the rant.

 

But it doesn't affect you in any way; it is neither inconvenient nor time wasting.

 

Un-appealable mutes are convenient then? Because they neither raise or lower my status until I accumulate enough blackmarks I also will never be able to appeal mutes.

What I'm ranting about is the system of of jagex's deferral of undeserved black-marks, not whether or not I should be frustrated, I am, and I find the system flawed hence the rant.

 

But it doesn't affect you in any way; it is neither inconvenient nor time wasting.

 

Un-appealable mutes are convenient then? Because they neither raise or lower my status until I accumulate enough blackmarks I also will never be able to appeal mutes.

 

I was hoping that I'd stated the obvious enough times, but I can do it again. Yes, you suffered the inconvenience of a 24 hour mute, a slight annoyance but nothing life changing.

What I'm ranting about is the system of of jagex's deferral of undeserved black-marks, not whether or not I should be frustrated, I am, and I find the system flawed hence the rant.

 

But it doesn't affect you in any way; it is neither inconvenient nor time wasting.

 

Un-appealable mutes are convenient then? Because they neither raise or lower my status until I accumulate enough blackmarks I also will never be able to appeal mutes.

 

I was hoping that I'd stated the obvious enough times, but I can do it again. Yes, you suffered the inconvenience of a 24 hour mute, a slight annoyance but nothing life changing.

 

I'm getting very annoyed of you missing the point. The point is that it's unfair to let those who have higher bms able to appeal the threats that we face, we have to face inconvenience for doing less wrong,this is the point.