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Waterfiends, Karils + SS/Z Spear vs Void + GS

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Wich method should i use if i go?

Karil with Gs. Your stats aren't so high and that means you need accuracy and godsword will give you that.

 

 

 

Void Melee = Terrible.

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Karil with Gs. Your stats aren't so high and that means you need accuracy and godsword will give you that.

 

 

 

Void Melee = Terrible.

 

i thought gs was to slow to use with just karils? dont u use melee void cuase of att bonus with gs?

Karil with Gs. Your stats aren't so high and that means you need accuracy and godsword will give you that.

 

 

 

Void Melee = Terrible.

 

i thought gs was to slow to use with just karils? dont u use melee void cuase of att bonus with gs?

 

 

 

Gs is slow, but since your stats are low gs slowness won't matter.

 

 

 

In other words, if you hit twice with sara sword or zamorak spear...chance you will hit 0 because of your stats is high.

 

 

 

But with godsword which is maybe the most accurate melee weapon, it will help you. It might be slow but atleast you will hit high.

 

 

 

Void= not worth it, i don't see the amazing boost if there is any...

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Karil with Gs. Your stats aren't so high and that means you need accuracy and godsword will give you that.

 

 

 

Void Melee = Terrible.

 

i thought gs was to slow to use with just karils? dont u use melee void cuase of att bonus with gs?

 

 

 

Gs is slow, but since your stats are low gs slowness won't matter.

 

 

 

In other words, if you hit twice with sara sword or zamorak spear...chance you will hit 0 because of your stats is high.

 

 

 

But with godsword which is maybe the most accurate melee weapon, it will help you. It might be slow but atleast you will hit high.

 

 

 

Void= not worth it, i don't see the amazing boost if there is any...

 

Void gives +10% to att and str with it about equivilent to banos a neit and dark gloves

Use Karils and Z Spear. SirHemen doesn't have stats like yours so he can't judge well, but I have done waterfiends with Z spears, Sara swords, and Godswords all with mid-80 combat stats, and the Z spear has stood out as the best. Just make sure you have those super sets or you will be missing a lot more.

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Karil with Gs. Your stats aren't so high and that means you need accuracy and godsword will give you that.

 

 

 

Void Melee = Terrible.

 

i thought gs was to slow to use with just karils? dont u use melee void cuase of att bonus with gs?

 

 

 

Gs is slow, but since your stats are low gs slowness won't matter.

 

 

 

In other words, if you hit twice with sara sword or zamorak spear...chance you will hit 0 because of your stats is high.

 

 

 

But with godsword which is maybe the most accurate melee weapon, it will help you. It might be slow but atleast you will hit high.

 

 

 

Void= not worth it, i don't see the amazing boost if there is any...

 

I don't buy it. Any way you look at it - mathematically or with real world tests - levels and defence have little effect on the effectiveness of godswords\prayers\potions etc.

 

 

 

Best weapon by far is SS, then zammy spear, then godswords as a VERY distant 3rd. I would almost put flail\hams above godsword; it's just that slow. Melee void is nice if you have a unicorn, not so nice if your dealing with a bunyip. I personally go for full void + ss + unicorn, but it BARELY keeps up with 99 defence.

 

 

 

 

Void gives +10% to att and str with it about equivilent to banos a neit and dark gloves

 

First of all, void is 15-17%, and if it was 10% it would be significantly behind bandos\nezzy\dark gloves.

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Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29

GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon Boots

Dry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks

Well that's how i look at it, so don't mind if you disagree with me.

 

 

 

As for void, i honestly don't find it so great. Even if it gave a good offensive boost, it wouldn't be worth it because of the defense....atleast not to me.

Karil + ZS. I've been doing that set-up on my waterfiend tasks since 85 combats and have constantly found it the best. If the + GS was a SGS, then take it along for the specs. As you don't have a unicorn void melee is kind of out of the question.

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Karils for sure.

 

 

 

SS is preffered but if you have max strength (like moi) then Zammy Spear is better for the little XP you get in attack/defence by training controlled.

 

 

 

GS's are a big no no for training at any level.

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Well that's how i look at it, so don't mind if you disagree with me.

 

 

 

As for void, i honestly don't find it so great. Even if it gave a good offensive boost, it wouldn't be worth it because of the defense....atleast not to me.

 

Like I said, it requires a pony. I can tank in void and very rarely use prayer (~15% of the time) while getting far, FAR faster kills with piety. Void makes a big difference.

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Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29

GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon Boots

Dry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks

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ok so karils + ss then

Not to bash on hemen but alot of the time his advice isnt very accurate. Go with compfreak on this one, void is great at waterfiends, but you really need the stats to use it well. Piety and void is where its at!

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Slayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)

Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2

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Karil with Gs. Your stats aren't so high and that means you need accuracy and godsword will give you that.

 

 

 

Void Melee = Terrible.

 

i thought gs was to slow to use with just karils? dont u use melee void cuase of att bonus with gs?

 

 

 

Gs is slow, but since your stats are low gs slowness won't matter.

 

 

 

In other words, if you hit twice with sara sword or zamorak spear...chance you will hit 0 because of your stats is high.

 

 

 

But with godsword which is maybe the most accurate melee weapon, it will help you. It might be slow but atleast you will hit high.

 

 

 

Void= not worth it, i don't see the amazing boost if there is any...

 

I don't buy it. Any way you look at it - mathematically or with real world tests - levels and defence have little effect on the effectiveness of godswords\prayers\potions etc.

 

 

 

Best weapon by far is SS, then zammy spear, then godswords as a VERY distant 3rd. I would almost put flail\hams above godsword; it's just that slow. Melee void is nice if you have a unicorn, not so nice if your dealing with a bunyip. I personally go for full void + ss + unicorn, but it BARELY keeps up with 99 defence.

 

 

 

 

Void gives +10% to att and str with it about equivilent to banos a neit and dark gloves

 

First of all, void is 15-17%, and if it was 10% it would be significantly behind bandos\nezzy\dark gloves.

 

 

 

When you say you barely keep up, you mean you barely survive while using piety and NO protect from ranged? or what?

Karil with Gs. Your stats aren't so high and that means you need accuracy and godsword will give you that.

 

 

 

Void Melee = Terrible.

 

i thought gs was to slow to use with just karils? dont u use melee void cuase of att bonus with gs?

 

 

 

Gs is slow, but since your stats are low gs slowness won't matter.

 

 

 

In other words, if you hit twice with sara sword or zamorak spear...chance you will hit 0 because of your stats is high.

 

 

 

But with godsword which is maybe the most accurate melee weapon, it will help you. It might be slow but atleast you will hit high.

 

 

 

Void= not worth it, i don't see the amazing boost if there is any...

 

I don't buy it. Any way you look at it - mathematically or with real world tests - levels and defence have little effect on the effectiveness of godswords\prayers\potions etc.

 

 

 

Best weapon by far is SS, then zammy spear, then godswords as a VERY distant 3rd. I would almost put flail\hams above godsword; it's just that slow. Melee void is nice if you have a unicorn, not so nice if your dealing with a bunyip. I personally go for full void + ss + unicorn, but it BARELY keeps up with 99 defence.

 

 

 

 

Void gives +10% to att and str with it about equivilent to banos a neit and dark gloves

 

First of all, void is 15-17%, and if it was 10% it would be significantly behind bandos\nezzy\dark gloves.

 

 

 

When you say you barely keep up, you mean you barely survive while using piety and NO protect from ranged? or what?

 

Yes. Unicorn can generally *just* keep up with it, but every now and then one waterfiend hits me a lot and I end up using pray a small amount of the time.

DeviledEgg24.png

Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29

GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon Boots

Dry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks

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