I need to know a few things about ice bursting/barraging rock lobsters and also some stuff about summoning.

 

 

 

First off, I'm not clear what the mage xp/hour, crimson charm/hour, other charms/hour, and casts/hour are. Could anyone tell me these as it seems like everywhere I go there's a difference answer.

 

 

 

Ok next, if I wanted to get 90 summoning from 75, is this the best idea: Granite lobsters to 85, then Swamp Titans to 90? Also, if I have other charms such as golds, would it be a good idea to use those as well or JUST use the crimsons? What I mean is, are golds and blues as cost effective as crimsons are?

 

 

 

Also, what is the xp/hour rate of actually using the charms?

 

 

 

When I make the pouches, should I make them into scrolls? Do I get the same amount of shards back per 10 scrolls as I would for 1 pouch? Is it worth the extra time?

 

 

 

That's all, thanks!

The casts/hour is about 600-700, about 260 crims/1k bursts, total summoning xp/1k bursts around 100-110k depending on level, mage xp ~190-200k/1k bursts. This is all my data, it may be a little different for you.

 

 

 

If you have any other charms, save the blues till at least 79 or preferably 89, and use all the other charms BEFORE crimsons. You're indeed best off using your crims on granite lobsters until you can make swamp titans.

 

 

 

You can use around 3k charms/hour with the kyatt, so the xp/hour rate is quite high (~250k xp/hour with golds) to completely awesome (like 2.4m xp/hour with blues :P).

 

 

 

I'd just trade in the pouches, not really worth the extra time making the scrolls.

At the 9 lob spot, doing ice burst:

 

 

 

105k magic xp an hour

 

140-150 crimsons an hour

 

half of that (70 or so) golds an hour

 

30 greens an hour

 

blues: ...

 

580 casts an hour

 

180 mage xp per cast

 

 

 

Golds are MORE cost effective than crimsons. Use them by all means, and use them first (since you've already reached the lvl to make the best pouch from it: barker toads or terrorbirds).

 

Blues are also cheaper than crimsons, and you should use them at lvl 79 on moss titans.

 

I would use your greens on fruit bats since the second is very cheap, and the extra xp for using them on other higher lvl pouches is very small, considering the extra cost.

 

 

 

So use in this order: Golds, greens, crimsons (till 79), blues. From then on, try to save crimsons till 85. With save I mean, use crimsons last. Getting 79-85 just on blues/greens/golds is a bit over the top.

 

 

 

Using the charms depends on what you make but with a kyatt it's over 2k pouches an hour (2.2 I think).

 

 

 

Dont make them into scrolls, you get back less.

 

 

 

I think that's about it

btw, here's a trick for granite lobsters. Take a chisel and 5 kg blocks instead of 500g. use the ogre place summoning obelisk, and trade in the pouches right there. You can get almost 10x more exp per trip that way and its slightly faster than using kyatts.

 

 

 

By the way, don't even CONSIDER wasting any color charm, even green. You waste too much time and money replacing the exp from the green charms with crimsons for it to be worth it.

Thanks for everyone's info. I'm not all too concerned about time, mainly about cost.

 

 

 

btw, here's a trick for granite lobsters. Take a chisel and 5 kg blocks instead of 500g. use the ogre place summoning obelisk, and trade in the pouches right there. You can get almost 10x more exp per trip that way and its slightly faster than using kyatts.

 

 

 

By the way, don't even CONSIDER wasting any color charm, even green. You waste too much time and money replacing the exp from the green charms with crimsons for it to be worth it.

 

 

 

Thanks for that, I'll try it out when I'm a member.

Blues are also cheaper than crimsons, and you should use them at lvl 79 on moss titans.

 

Save Blues til 89 and use on Geyser Titans.

Blues are also cheaper than crimsons, and you should use them at lvl 79 on moss titans.

 

Save Blues til 89 and use on Geyser Titans.

 

Geysers are about 85 xp more and 3k more expensive. I kind of doubt if that's worth saving them for that long.