But enough on the story. We all talked to the Humane Society and they said that even though he should be punished for it, he can't be. He put the rat poison at the very edge of his yard where water gathers in a small ditch between properties which was also where our dogs went to drink rain water. Since all the dogs were technically on his property by about a foot and a half, we couldn't do anything. We had a huge article published in our local newspaper about him doing that. People started sending him letters and eventually he just moved out.

 

 

 

The dogs were on his property? He should have every right to do what is necessary to keep them off. That people sent him letters and complained enough to the point he had to move is the part that troubles me.

 

 

 

Poisoning a dog who is drinking water off your property isn't the way a rational person would go about keeping the dog off. I hope that story follows him wherever he goes

Poisoning a dog who is drinking water off your property isn't the way a rational person would go about keeping the dog off. I hope that story follows him wherever he goes

 

 

 

It's not his job to keep the dog off, it is the dog owners.

Poisoning a dog who is drinking water off your property isn't the way a rational person would go about keeping the dog off. I hope that story follows him wherever he goes

 

 

 

It's not his job to keep the dog off, it is the dog owners.

 

 

 

K so next time the neighbours let their kid walk on my lawn I'm blowing the little buggers head off instead of talking to the parents.

K so next time the neighbours let their kid walk on my lawn I'm blowing the little buggers head off instead of talking to the parents.

 

 

 

Dogs aren't humans, they are property.

K so next time the neighbours let their kid walk on my lawn I'm blowing the little buggers head off instead of talking to the parents.

 

 

 

Dogs aren't humans, they are property.

 

 

 

Kid is still trespassing, I'm gunna blow him away I guess

Kid is still trespassing, I'm gunna blow him away I guess

 

 

 

That you equate dogs on the same level as humans scares me.

Kid is still trespassing, I'm gunna blow him away I guess

 

 

 

That you equate dogs on the same level as humans scares me.

 

 

 

I'm trying to say that it was stupid of the guy to kill the dog when he could have just spoke to the owners. And he killed the dog because it was drinking water just barely on his property? Doesn't sound like a very safe guy

I'm trying to say that it was stupid of the guy to kill the dog when he could have just spoke to the owners.

 

 

 

Using a straw man argument doesn't prove anything.

Saying that an animal is stupid is like saying a rock is stupid. They were never meant to be intelligent so why judge them as if they were?

 

 

 

PS: I agree with Blood on this one. I see nothing wrong with letting your dog live outside, but it's [bleep]ed up if you purposely try killing them.

Our dog wasn't the type that we let roam around, it was just that there was tasty rainwater gathering where the two properties met. She never even went up into his yard or near his house. He put rat poison on the border of his property. If he had it out near his garage or by his deck, no problem, that I would be fine with, but the fact that he would poison water where he knew that our dog, and two other dogs went to drink from is absolutely ridiclous.

He put rat poison on the border of his property.

 

 

 

As in an invisible kind of fence of rat poison? Wow, what a law suit waiting to happen

Just remember that if he ever leaves any property on your yard by even an inch you should smash it to bits as payback(okay maybe thats too extreme)

 

 

 

On topic

 

 

 

this is quite an interesting question, I think our main problem is that we cant mind read. We might be able to see the different levels of stimuli response complexity, but we cant gather a proper reference to determine it. We know/trust that humans understand they are alive because we are, and other humans are like us. I guess we could ask the same question of someone with a mental disability; is a mentally challenged person consciously aware they are living? Where does the drop off point for consciousness occur?

Just remember that if he ever leaves any property on your yard by even an inch you should smash it to bits as payback(okay maybe thats too extreme)

 

 

 

On topic

 

 

 

this is quite an interesting question, I think our main problem is that we cant mind read. We might be able to see the different levels of stimuli response complexity, but we cant gather a proper reference to determine it. We know/trust that humans understand they are alive because we are, and other humans are like us. I guess we could ask the same question of someone with a mental disability; is a mentally challenged person consciously aware they are living? Where does the drop off point for consciousness occur?

 

 

 

The general consensus is that tests like the red dot test are pretty good ways of determining self awareness, and I have a lot of confidence in them