Buying computer online is it good :D i think so

[devilheart14]

ok im looking as you know at a comp and i think i found the one i want its already bulit and is in the UK so id have to have it shipped here are the specs:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.savastore.com/productinfo/pr ... 655&pid=44

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Product Details

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PowerXS 6442

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* AMD Athlon 64 4200+ X2 Dual Core Processor with 2000MHz HyperTransport Technology

 

 

 

* 2x512MB (1GB) Dual DDR 400 (PC3200) Branded Memory

 

 

 

* 2x256MB SLi NVIDIA Geforce 6800GT PCI Express Graphics

 

 

 

* 200GB Ultra-Fast SATA (150Mbps) Hard Disk Drive

 

 

 

* 16X Dual Layer LG DVD +/-/RAM Rewriter

 

 

 

* 1.44MB 3.5'' Floppy Drive with Integrated 7in1 Memory Card Reader

 

 

 

* Optional Digital and Analogue TV

 

 

 

* Integrated 7.1 8 Channel Surround Sound Audio

 

 

 

* Fast 100Mbit Ethernet LAN (Broadband Ready)

 

 

 

* 400Mbps IEEE1394 Firewire Ports

 

 

 

* 2 Front, 6 Rear Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Ports

 

 

 

* PowerXS Coolermaster Centurion 530 Midi-Tower Case with 380W PSU

 

 

 

* Optional Monitor

 

 

 

* Optional Speakers

 

 

 

* Optional Keyboard & Optional Mouse

 

 

 

* Choose from a range of Additional Hardware Options

 

 

 

* Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack 2

 

 

 

* Choice of optional Office Suites

 

 

 

* Panda Antivirus Titanium 2004 (1yr virus subscription)

 

 

 

* Choice of optional Software

 

 

 

* Full 6-year Warranty including 1-year On-Site parts and labour cover

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PRICE: ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã1,299

 

 

 

USD: 2,296.09

 

 

 

Australian dollars: 3,044.05

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

looks hot aye ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

any suggestions to configure without spending to much more? thanks every1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

btw soz i have been really busy latly and will try and come on more.!!

[jammy316]

Looks hot, hot processer, but could be built alot cheaper then what they want, price bang will go up due to 6 years of warranty.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gaming machine by the looks of it but heres my problems/change could be made ::

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2x256MB SLi NVIDIA Geforce 6800GT PCI Express Graphics

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why in the blues hell do you need to graphics cards in your machine though? :S. Especially because your cards are costing 400 quid(pound) for both..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Two changes if you have an extra 60 quid I'd make::

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Get PowerXS Titanium Gaming Full-Tower Case with advanced cooling system Case incase a fan dies or your system just looks like its needed(48 Pound extra but in the end its worth it).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also get SoundBlaster Live! 24BIT 7.1 8 Channel Surround Sound Audio instead of intergreated (SoundBlasters good quality :) ). And only a charge of 16 quid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My only problem is spending that much money, you really don't need two cards, with that processer and two cards it really could to with another stick of ram IMO(Just run smoother, upgrade to 2 gig if you have the money, especially if its a gaming machine or within time you'll just have to upgrade your ram when your other parts don't need upgrading) and why the hell you get no monitor with that price?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO theres alot of labour costs there which is what you don't want.. and sticking things in which is bumping up the price.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you have any local computer fairs, or shops, I'd go ask about building you a PC.. should be cheaper and unless your a gaming freak (Not Runescape.. I'm on about games which push it to the limit.. lets say Battlefield 2 on Full High Specs, Play Matches, Enter Leagues etc) Then maybe, if not, you are wasting money and don't need that PC you posted.

[devilheart14]

yeh i was also looking mainly at using it as a guide so that i can look for parts cheaper here and cutting out labour costs but i have 2 find out how much it is vs making it myself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yeh i saw somethings overpriced and im sure i can get them cheaper here

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yeh and i am looking at games which are pushing the limit like bf2, cs source sorta thing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thanks for the feedback.

[Hannibal]

Revised product list:

 

 

 

* AMD Athlon 64 4200+ X2 Dual Core Processor with 2000MHz HyperTransport Technology

 

 

 

* 2x512MB (1GB) Dual DDR 400 (PC3200) Branded Memory

 

 

 

* 2x256MB SLi NVIDIA Geforce 6800GT PCI Express Graphics

 

 

 

* 200GB Ultra-Fast SATA (150Mbps) Hard Disk Drive

 

 

 

* 16X Dual Layer LG DVD +/-/RAM Rewriter

 

 

 

* 1.44MB 3.5'' Floppy Drive with Integrated 7in1 Memory Card Reader

 

 

 

* Integrated 7.1 8 Channel Surround Sound Audio

 

 

 

* Fast 100Mbit Ethernet LAN (Broadband Ready)

 

 

 

* 400Mbps IEEE1394 Firewire Ports

 

 

 

* 2 Front, 6 Rear Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Ports

 

 

 

* PowerXS Coolermaster Centurion 530 Midi-Tower Case with 380W PSU

 

 

 

* Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack 2

 

 

 

* Panda Antivirus Titanium 2004 (1yr virus subscription)

 

 

 

* Full 6-year Warranty including 1-year On-Site parts and labour cover

 

 

 

 

 

 

So. No monitor. No keyboard/mouse/speakers. I don't know if that matters for you, but just in case.

 

 

 

Then... Why doesn't it list a motherboard? You're bound to get a crappy one with little expansion capabilities if they don't list it (usually).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally, I think this is way too much for the general home user. You really don't have a use for the double graphics card unless you really care about the few pixels off you get in Doom 3 if you play it with just one gpu. As for the dual core cpu, they're so new that the real performance difference is unclear. I doubt you really need that, too. Basically, you're paying double for maybe a 20% performance increase if you really put the system to its limit. That's not really worth it for most people.

[devilheart14]

motherboard = Asus A8N- SLI motherboard

[Silver_Dragon]

For a gaming machine you'll want at least 2gb of memory, not 1gb. 2gb is quickly becoming the norm as more powerful games are made utilizing a lotta RAM. One example is Battlefield 2, I tried it with 2x 256 sticks and it loaded very slow and stuttered a lot, but when I upgraded to 2x 1gb sticks, it loaded very quick and did not stutter at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the 2 graphic cards, SLI is nice...but IMO it's not needed. the 6800GT is a powerful card already, and running 2x might give you only a slight increase in performance. It's up to you if $200 is worth a few seconds of waiting, since a single 6800 can already handle any game's graphics out there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mine is somewhat similar to to yours, only its not SLI and is a P4 with Hyperthread. But mine was a little over $800, saving over $1300 dollars than what you're paying. :mrgreen:

[Hannibal]

motherboard = Asus A8N- SLI motherboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's not too bad then. Still, I insist on the bit about SLI and the dual core setup being too much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE; 2GB of RAM - you really don't need that much. 1GB will do fine for most of the things currently out there. I'm on Linux, I've compiled a massive amount of source (Mozilla Firefox) while continuing to use the machine normally. I never came close to using up the 1GB. Even for games, 1GB is all you need for now. Sure, maybe in a year or two you will need more. You buy more then, when it's also about half as cheap as it is now. Buying it now just costs you extra money which you could better spend at something else.

[Pyro]

2x 6800GT in SLI?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Drop that and get yourself a Geforce 7800GT instead, or a 7800GTX if you feel the need to be excessive. SLI is just expensive bragging rights, and SLI-systems with cards that aren't even in the latest series is a total waste.

[devilheart14]

SLI is just expensive bragging rights, .

 

 

 

yeh i no aye :D

 

 

 

who dosnt love 2 brag but? it an over kill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mine is somewhat similar to to yours, only its not SLI and is a P4 with Hyperthread. But mine was a little over $800, saving over $1300 dollars than what you're paying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

did u build that your self?

 

 

 

if not can u give me a link to check it out

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thanks

[xyrec]

Well I'm so fuming mad right now I could just about throw a brick through my computer screen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I made a big long winded post about my opinion of that pc you have selected and then I had a list of stuff I priced on tigerdirect.com. However I took so long making my post that the forum autologged me out so when I clicked submit it took me to a login screen and wouldn't let me go back. So of course after I logged back in it brought up a blank window for me to type my message in. So there went my post.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well anyway the prices were $2393.00 USD for one that would spank the hiney(faster cpu, better mother board, faster single graphics card, double the ram, better hard drive with 50gb more storage, better looks{uv reactive cabling and fans plus a uv lighting kit and much cooler case} and a nice monitor, keyboard&mouse combo, and speakers although I can't be sure if what i selected on those 3 was better since you only described them as "optional in your list) of the one you had picked out. And then $2076.00 USD for one a little more similar to the one you have picked out. Both packages I priced included everything you would need for the entire pc, including the operating system, xp home edition sp 2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's usually cheaper and better to buy the parts and put it together. Using online how-to-guides and the instructions that come with the parts you outta be able to install everything yourself no problem. Just go buy a 5 dollar anti-static wrist strap from radio shack or another electronics store for when you assemble everything. Equipment that expensive isn't something you wanna chance frying with static. If everything else fails call that one nerdy friend that everyone has and ask if he can help you a bit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and you'll feel much better about the pc if you can say you put it together yourself. Not to mention the experience is helpful for when you're in your work place and something goes wrong with a computer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The biggest thing to remember when you shop for a pc or pc parts is that it's very easy to get ripped off. Stuff like those software options you included are usually a waste of money. I would never make any use of microsoft office. Maybe you might but the majority of us could get by with wordpad. The anti-virus is unnecessary when you can get everything you need for free on the net.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warranties are nice on pc's that you buy but if you can build your own pc you can also fix your own pc and the parts usually have their own warranties so if a part breaks you can get it replaced if it's still under warranty. Even dell doesn't offer a 6 year warranty, considering that most of the parts for your computer would likely be out of stock after just a couple years. I'd be cautious about trusting just any company's warranty. Most companies realize that most people are too lazy to use their warranties and they just stick the warranties in there as another option to charge you out the wazoo for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I was you I'd do a lot of shopping and comparing, read a lot of consumer reports and reviews, and think long and hard before clicking the "buy now" button. That's a lot of money to spend for something that might be overpriced and underpowered.

[jammy316]

2x 6800GT in SLI?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Drop that and get yourself a Geforce 7800GT instead, or a 7800GTX if you feel the need to be excessive. SLI is just expensive bragging rights, and SLI-systems with cards that aren't even in the latest series is a total waste.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7800GTX costs more then the priced 2x 6800GT in SLI..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw what are you looking to get out of this computer?

[Silver_Dragon]

 

SLI is just expensive bragging rights, .

 

 

 

yeh i no aye :D

 

 

 

who dosnt love 2 brag but? it an over kill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mine is somewhat similar to to yours, only its not SLI and is a P4 with Hyperthread. But mine was a little over $800, saving over $1300 dollars than what you're paying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

did u build that your self?

 

 

 

if not can u give me a link to check it out

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://esupport.sony.com/perl/model-doc ... dl=VGCRB30

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My uncle found it off ubid.com, pretty good site for finding factory refurbished models for super cheap. It didnt come with a graphics card so you'll hafta buy one yourself and install it. Also, I upgraded my ram to 2gb and mu power supply to a 480w. Ive had mine for about 2 months and it hasnt given me a problem yet :)

[devilheart14]

 

2x 6800GT in SLI?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Drop that and get yourself a Geforce 7800GT instead, or a 7800GTX if you feel the need to be excessive. SLI is just expensive bragging rights, and SLI-systems with cards that aren't even in the latest series is a total waste.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7800GTX costs more then the priced 2x 6800GT in SLI..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw what are you looking to get out of this computer?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im gonna be using it for top level gaming, photo editing, video editing and basic other things like internet, music, word, excel and that sorta thing so it needs to be pritty good.

[jammy316]

 

 

2x 6800GT in SLI?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Drop that and get yourself a Geforce 7800GT instead, or a 7800GTX if you feel the need to be excessive. SLI is just expensive bragging rights, and SLI-systems with cards that aren't even in the latest series is a total waste.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7800GTX costs more then the priced 2x 6800GT in SLI..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw what are you looking to get out of this computer?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im gonna be using it for top level gaming, photo editing, video editing and basic other things like internet, music, word, excel and that sorta thing so it needs to be pritty good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What your tryin to buy is good.. it needs adjustments such as a better case for cooling, 1 gig more of ram etc and it can be built other places for couple of hundred pounds less(Seriously).

[devilheart14]

 

 

 

2x 6800GT in SLI?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Drop that and get yourself a Geforce 7800GT instead, or a 7800GTX if you feel the need to be excessive. SLI is just expensive bragging rights, and SLI-systems with cards that aren't even in the latest series is a total waste.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7800GTX costs more then the priced 2x 6800GT in SLI..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw what are you looking to get out of this computer?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im gonna be using it for top level gaming, photo editing, video editing and basic other things like internet, music, word, excel and that sorta thing so it needs to be pritty good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What your tryin to buy is good.. it needs adjustments such as a better case for cooling, 1 gig more of ram etc and it can be built other places for couple of hundred pounds less(Seriously).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yeh i was thinking of doing that i might start looking round for prices :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thanks

[Kwisatz]

Screw the SLI 6800s and get a 7800GTX, or better yet, a 7800GTX in SLI, if you REALLY need it. I just got an SLI mobo with a 7800GT so I can just buy a second one and upgrade that way. (Too bad I can't assemble the damn comp yet...)

[devilheart14]

Screw the SLI 6800s and get a 7800GTX, or better yet, a 7800GTX in SLI, if you REALLY need it. I just got an SLI mobo with a 7800GT so I can just buy a second one and upgrade that way. (Too bad I can't assemble the damn comp yet...)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol will any1 eva even need 7800GT SLI ?? thats overkill but good for showing off :P now u only need a clear case now :D

[Kwisatz]

 

Screw the SLI 6800s and get a 7800GTX, or better yet, a 7800GTX in SLI, if you REALLY need it. I just got an SLI mobo with a 7800GT so I can just buy a second one and upgrade that way. (Too bad I can't assemble the damn comp yet...)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol will any1 eva even need 7800GT SLI ?? thats overkill but good for showing off :P now u only need a clear case now :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What people don't understand is that although a lower-quality video card will run everything all right, if you have a higher-power one, it will be longer until it becomes obsolete and you have to replace it. Just keep that in mind. Given Moore's Law, this computer I just bought for $1300 will do every task I throw at it reasonably well until I get to college, as opposed to having to spend $900 twice just to have a decent computer in 4 years' time.