Herblore

[Championfurydelta123]

What is the most cost efficient way for me to get from 54-65 herblore?

[Championfurydelta123]

BUMP

[gorgoroth]

Well i personally find that doing Herblore along with Farming is the best way to go. Plant your own herbs and use them to make the potions. If you buy the seconds you wont lose as much or you might should actually come away with a nice profit. If you dont mind taking ages to get to your target lvl then cleaning Ranarr's and making Ranarr Potion(unf) will also make you profit, but as i said this will take some time. If you're just after speed then then making Serum is the best way (can't remember the Serum name, but it was the one used in a Quest).

[SportsGuy]

Personally, I don't like bumping because people will (or should) post if they find it interesting enough to post on.

 

 

 

Plenty of guides exist already on training herblore, but to more directly answer your question, I think making herb tars got me into the 60s from the low 50s. Is it insanely profitable? No. It's not quick either, but it's reliable, since people usually don't make tons of potions from the lower herbs. I also made tons of super fishing explosives with guam and rubium...the benefit being that those stack...the drawback being they are untradeable/unsellable.

 

 

 

I would suggest gathering herbs with a macaw familiar and always making the best potion you can, even if you can't sell them. If you're trying to level without losing lots of money, I'd say pay attention to the GE on potion prices, but if you're gathering the herbs yourself, you won't have as much of a cost problem as you would if you're buying your herbs.

[Championfurydelta123]

I can't do that at 54 herblore >.

[Championfurydelta123]

Personally, I don't like bumping because people will (or should) post if they find it interesting enough to post on.

 

 

 

Plenty of guides exist already on training herblore, but to more directly answer your question, I think making herb tars got me into the 60s from the low 50s. Is it insanely profitable? No. It's not quick either, but it's reliable, since people usually don't make tons of potions from the lower herbs. I also made tons of super fishing explosives with guam and rubium...the benefit being that those stack...the drawback being they are untradeable/unsellable.

 

 

 

I would suggest gathering herbs with a macaw familiar and always making the best potion you can, even if you can't sell them. If you're trying to level without losing lots of money, I'd say pay attention to the GE on potion prices, but if you're gathering the herbs yourself, you won't have as much of a cost problem as you would if you're buying your herbs.

 

 

 

Okay i will try making the tars.

[SportsGuy]

I can't do that at 54 herblore >.<

 

 

 

Can't do what?

[Championfurydelta123]

The serums, btw there is a problem. Harralanders don't sell nor do swamp tar and when i try to sell harralander tar it doesnt sell neither.

[ovorette]

Serum 207 requires only level 15 herblore but you must have done (started?) the Shades quest to make it. And you will be stuck with it as it is not tradeable and therefore you can't note it to drop it.

 

 

 

If you are going for cost efficiency then find a potion you can make that is in demand on the GE and either gather (or farm) the herb or the second yourself. Buying both will almost always result in a loss.

 

 

 

Prayer potions were the rare exception until they recently became the latest merchanting rage.

[GibberEsh]

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Calculators/Potions

 

Harralander tar is terrrrrrrrible. Cheapest looks like super energy potions but I'm not sure if you can sell them back. If you're gonna farm, farm snaps and sell them and buy whatever's best you can make.

[SportsGuy]

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Calculators/Potions

 

Harralander tar is terrrrrrrrible. Cheapest looks like super energy potions but I'm not sure if you can sell them back. If you're gonna farm, farm snaps and sell them and buy whatever's best you can make.

 

 

 

I'm not suggesting to make tars to sell them for profit...gathering the tar in the lunar isle ship and making them is how I got to the 60s....penguin points for the rest of the way to 65.

 

 

 

Tars are great for using up terrible herbs. Serum is good for tarromin because you can use it on the townsfolk (why drop?) and get some ingredients back...burn the logs they sometimes give for ashes.

 

 

 

There is no magic formula or secret trick...it's hard to get levels for herblore just like anything else and if there was a big seller, everyone would do it and it would cease to be a big seller. Use all the herbs you can in the best way possible....that's all I can see working.

[Zaaps1]

Do not turn your herbs from farming into potions. It's a false illusion of herblore being cheap or free. If you farmed snaps and made Super Restores, you'd spend the same amount of money in the end compared to if you bought the snaps.

 

 

 

So if you are farming Ranarrs and go turn them into Prayer Potions, know that you aren't saving any money.

 

 

 

That being said, there is a technique for making ppots that can save you quite a lot of money at a small cost in speed. If you have Fremmy Boots 3 and set your Lyre destination to Waterbirth, you can teleport there with 1 lyre and 26 unf ranarr pots. Then run to the South-west corner and collect the snape grass and add it to the ranarr potion, 1 by 1 (you can also do it in 3s, but that is the max, otherwise the snape grass respawns too quickly).

[ovorette]

I am not implying that farming herbs to train herblore is free experience. But if you want to train the herblore skill you can either pay for the components strictly with gp, at a loss, or you can use another skill (combat or farming) to collect a component while gaining the experience from gathering it.

 

 

 

Gathering snape grass on Waterbirth is very efficient if using Peer to bank with but it gains you no inherent experience as farming or combat will.

 

 

 

It is all a trade-off.

[Zaaps1]

I am not implying that farming herbs to train herblore is free experience. But if you want to train the herblore skill you can either pay for the components strictly with gp, at a loss, or you can use another skill (combat or farming) to collect a component while gaining the experience from gathering it.

 

 

 

Gathering snape grass on Waterbirth is very efficient if using Peer to bank with but it gains you no inherent experience as farming or combat will.

 

 

 

It is all a trade-off.

 

 

 

I was not directing the post specifically at you.

 

 

 

Sure killing abby specs for herbs or farming the herbs will give you xp. But is it worth the insanely slower speed? If I cannoned Ab Specs for 30 mins, I could expect maybe 10 ranarrs. That means you'd get about 20 ranarrs per hour. If you farmed herbs, you'd get another 25 herbs per hour (in reality, you'd get 30 herbs per 75 minutes). That's 45 herbs per hour, minus the cost of the ranarr seeds and supplies to cannon the ab specs. No, it's a much better idea to buy the herbs, then either sell the herbs you farm and turn them into potions as well if it's the same herb you're buying.

 

 

 

I think you misunderstand my point on Snape Grass. You aren't collecting it then banking it. You are going there with unfinished ranarr potions, picking up the snape grass, and mixing the prayer potions on the spot, while waiting for the snape grass to respawn. It's only a bit slower than mixing them yourself, and you essentially get free snape grass.

[gorgoroth]

Do not turn your herbs from farming into potions. It's a false illusion of herblore being cheap or free. If you farmed snaps and made Super Restores, you'd spend the same amount of money in the end compared to if you bought the snaps.

 

 

 

So if you are farming Ranarrs and go turn them into Prayer Potions, know that you aren't saving any money.

 

 

 

That being said, there is a technique for making ppots that can save you quite a lot of money at a small cost in speed. If you have Fremmy Boots 3 and set your Lyre destination to Waterbirth, you can teleport there with 1 lyre and 26 unf ranarr pots. Then run to the South-west corner and collect the snape grass and add it to the ranarr potion, 1 by 1 (you can also do it in 3s, but that is the max, otherwise the snape grass respawns too quickly).

 

How are you not saving money? 1 Ranarr seed = 46k. 1 Seed = 6 Ranarrs on Avg. 6 Rannars = 70k. 6 Snapegrass + Vials of water = 4k. If you sell the Prayer Potion(3)'s for max (which is now possible, it sells instantly at max) you get 64k. You end up making a profit of 18k for each seed. How is that not saving money? Thats pure profit. #-o

[ovorette]

It is probably always less expensive these days to buy the potions rather than make them (on the other hand, have you had a look at the price of prayer potions lately?) , but that doesn't help if you NEED to raise your herblore level for a quest.

 

 

 

That is the trade off.

 

 

 

And if you want the trade off to be the least taxing to you then you will have to gather either the herb itself or the second component by farming, combat or running around getting snape grass, etc.

 

 

 

The offset is either finding a potion that is in high demand so that you can recoup some of your money by selling it or by making a potion or potions that you will use.

[Zaaps1]

Do not turn your herbs from farming into potions. It's a false illusion of herblore being cheap or free. If you farmed snaps and made Super Restores, you'd spend the same amount of money in the end compared to if you bought the snaps.

 

 

 

So if you are farming Ranarrs and go turn them into Prayer Potions, know that you aren't saving any money.

 

 

 

That being said, there is a technique for making ppots that can save you quite a lot of money at a small cost in speed. If you have Fremmy Boots 3 and set your Lyre destination to Waterbirth, you can teleport there with 1 lyre and 26 unf ranarr pots. Then run to the South-west corner and collect the snape grass and add it to the ranarr potion, 1 by 1 (you can also do it in 3s, but that is the max, otherwise the snape grass respawns too quickly).

 

How are you not saving money? 1 Ranarr seed = 46k. 1 Seed = 6 Ranarrs on Avg. 6 Rannars = 70k. 6 Snapegrass + Vials of water = 4k. If you sell the Prayer Potion(3)'s for max (which is now possible, it sells instantly at max) you get 64k. You end up making a profit of 18k for each seed. How is that not saving money? Thats pure profit. #-o

 

 

 

First off you have to ignore the fact that you can sell them at max. That won't last long because of merch clans. It's an unnatural occurance because they are being manipulated. Normally, they sell around mid price, which is what we should base it on.

 

 

 

If 1 ranarr seed is 46k and you get 6.5 on average (average is 7, but taking into account deaths it's 6.5) you get 32 herbs per 5 patches. If you sold those 32 herbs, you'd get about 350k. If you made them into potions, you'd need about 23k in supplies (snape grass/vials). You could then sell the Prayer Potions for 9k each (the normal pricing) for 288k. Minus supplies and that's 265k. You notice how you could've had 85k more if you simply sold the ranarrs instead of making them into potions? While you still profit in the long run, you just "paid" 85k for making those 32 prayer potions. While you never put 85k into the Grand Exchange, you are paying in potential money and therefore you still pay to train herblore.

 

 

 

And of course, you need to add 230k for the final number for the seeds. So you really don't even profit 265k. You profit 35k, and that's not from herblore, that's from farming. Since you are paying 85k for make 32 ppots, you are paying 2.6k to make 1 ppot.

 

 

 

What if you bought the ranarrs? You'd pay 350k for the 32 herbs. Then you'd buy the other supplies for 23k. You mix the pots, then sell them all back for 288k. 350k + 23k - 288k = 85k. You paid 85k to train herblore using 32 ppots. That's 2.6k to make 1 ppot. You see? It's no different.

 

 

 

Turning your farmed herbs into potions to make profit is a false illusion. You still pay for the herbs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

And if you want the trade off to be the least taxing to you then you will have to gather either the herb itself or the second component by farming, combat or running around getting snape grass, etc.

 

 

 

The offset is either finding a potion that is in high demand so that you can recoup some of your money by selling it or by making a potion or potions that you will use.

 

 

 

1. Prayer pots are only in high demand because they are being manipulated.

 

 

 

2. Gathering the herb yourself is extremely inefficient. You won't get many herbs per hour. Gathering the seconds may be viable, but it also takes a huge dent in your time. In both cases more almost every player, it's better to just buy the supplies, then use the time you saved to make the money back with your best moneymaker.

 

 

 

For example, if I could get 1.2k of a second per hour that was worth 400 gp each, I'd get 480k right? I could subtract that 480k from my costs. However, if I simply bought the seconds, I'd save an hour of time. I could then use that hour to make a lot more than 480k. So in the long run, buying the seconds is more efficient than gathering them myself. Of course, if I could not make 480k per hour, then collecting them is the best idea.

 

 

 

Same goes with herbs, if I could get 30 ranarrs per hour, that's like 330k. If I bought them all, I'd save an hour. If I can make 330k per hour, it's more efficient to buy the ranarrs. (Not considering that to get 30 ranarrs/hour you'd have to cannon, costing another 250k. Therefore, you need to make over 80k per hour to make buying ranarrs worth it. F2P can make that much...)

[lordkafei]

I buy grimy herbs at the GE, clean them, then sell them back to suckers trying to buy Herblore capes. You can make nice money this way. I make 40K xp per hour on torstol. You'd get less xp, but at least you wouldn't be throwing money at useless pots (Like Serum 207).