multi-weapon idea

[Zonorhc]

Again on the whip. It's useless against plate armour. It's good against armour that only partially covers the body or no armour at all. Sure, you can disarm or pull someone off-balance, but you're not going to deal any damage to a man wearing full plate. A whip's barbs just don't pack the weight and sheer power of a longsword. On scimitars, they're useless against heavy armour as well, since they rely on the curve to focus power rather than weight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Back to the idea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, you suggest that you turn it around and use the [bleep]es on the inside of the curve to hurt your enemy. What's the point, then? All you have there is a glorified club with [bleep]es. Terrible idea. Firstly, it's on the inside of the curve. That sort of blade is only effective on the kukri, because it's short and the curve is quite significant - about 60 degrees - as well as heavy. Next, [bleep]es. An arry of [bleep]es is terrible for dealing damage with. [bleep]es snap off or get ground down. You said you wanted a sword. Swords don't have [bleep]es for a number of reasons. One is that [bleep]es are utterly useless. Two, swords are for cutting, not piercing with a bunch of glorified nails like some sort of shiny club. [bleep]es also ruin structural integrity because they necessitate having notches and grooves in the blade, and act as points for an opponent's weapon to catch on and disarm or destroy the weapon. That's bad, in case you were wondering.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hence, if you want a feasible close-combat weapon, you'll have to do a number of things. One is that you make it rigid in all aspects, which means that it can't be used as a bow. Next, remove the [bleep]es because they're useless beyond compare. Then you cut with the outside of the curve, or if you want to keep cutting with the inside, shorten the blade by a lot and make it thicker as well as making the curve larger. That would also make it useless as a bow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are a number of good reasons why no civilizations have ever created a bow that could be disassembled for use as a pair of swords. I suggest you look into those.

[brando13a]

please remember that runescape is not the real world, it's just an idea not everything has to work perfectly,(although i know that this would other than the weakend center point where it splits), unlike many people i do take archery lessons for hunting, i've pucheased a few foregn (sp?) swords and lots that i've browsed to have curves and points along that curve on the inside but not to the point for [bleep]es.

 

 

 

and please just be reasonable and open to new things, it's never gonna be introduced to your precious game, its just a fun idea, i mean 3 in one its just the medieval (thx for spelling lol) swiss army knife :lol: .

[Zonorhc]

Oh, I'm open to ideas. Just not poorly thought-out ones that violate suspension of disbelief with a morningstar then leave it in the gutter to rot.

[Nugget89]

Like I said before: whips 2 feet away are useless against a sword, which is why the whip in runescape is stupid. But from a 15-20 ft radius, a whip would be far superior to a 3-foot sword. And even if someone is charging you, you could still disarm them or knock them off balance. Wouldn't work every time...but neither would the person with the sword charging.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obviously, whips can't pierce armor or do any damage against it...but neither can a sword that's as flexible as elastic. That was my point.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway...that's just my viewpoint. Not flaming what other people have said, just stating what I think. This idea is actually pretty cool...but it would need a little tweaking...like, instead of a bow, why not make the inside hollow...a pipe to shoot blow darts out of. The outside would be thick and in a diamond type shape so it'd still be a sword, and the inside would be hollowed out in with a small tiny circle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's not a very good idea...at all. I know that, but I'm just using it as an example.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think the multi-weapon is cool, I just think that in order for it to be feasible, it'd have to be changed a little bit.

[brando13a]

again, i take everything posted into consideration, but i know what im taling about. i'm just really tired of people with bad opions, not naming anyone here and not really suggesting anyone from this topic, but all things aside i've spent a few hours testing this and my idea works better in theory, but it still has its plausibility in the real world, exept for the whole stick the two swords together to make a bow, thats just convenience and use of the suspension of reality in most game worlds, and as for flexibility in bows, not all of them are too flexible, a hand made pine longbow has nearly no flexibility yet i can launch a generic arrow close to 150 feet, thats pretty damn good. so please don't lecture me on the importance of flex, flex is mainly for shortbows so that they maintain speed and keep some power, and for the sword, talk to my uncle who spent 3 years in Nigeria, then tell him that the design wont work. anyway i think im gonna abandon this post, thanks for your support (2 people and a couple nice thoughts on the main idea) and those of you who stick with your opinion that everything in a game has to be pefect and has to work, get some imagination... please.

[Zonorhc]

Eat your own words. Imagination has a tendency to come pre-packaged with enough sensibility to know when an idea wouldn't work. Flexibility is important to bows because that's what make the arrows fly. It's as important in longbows as in shortbows, and even more so in the former because of the length of the shaft. Shortbows are designed for fast, hard-hitting shots, while longbows are designed for range, with their power augmented by gravity. The less flexible the bow, the more likely it is to snap. Even bows with heavy pulls have to be flexible, though they're reinforced and made of composite materials to increase tension and flexibility at the same time.

[ryzogalo]

Hi, just thought I'd point out that jagex have a bow that's made of *crystal*. If jagex can explain flexible crystal away with magic, I'm sure they could do the same with steel. :P

[Zonorhc]

Probably some sort of magic-augmented biological construct. It does grow out of a seed, does it not?

[brando13a]

was it you who said "get a better reason than magic"?, well well look who goes to the dark side lol, here lets make my idea "crystal multi-weapon" dropped by the crystal giant, that make it better? and if not you prove my point that you will defend almost all of what your precious jagex makes wholly, i come up with one idea and you spend what 30 minutes, an hour trashing it? why? because i didnt bother to think it through down to the simple math and measurements, thats how i use my imagination, yes for some things i think up i make it extremely down to earth, but then people with real imagination can believe in things that couldnt happen (even tho this would work in seperate weapons :roll: ), think outside your small industrialized box.

[willyhenriksen]

 

 

You lose the internet for misuse of the rolling eyes emote, sorry.

 

 

 

But I always use the rolling eyes emote when dealing with stupid people, just like now. :roll: See? :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And in case you still don't understand... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your maturity ceases to amaze me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

atm, your the coolest person in the universe!

[NinjaGriffon]

barihawk > the zobel

[Zonorhc]

was it you who said "get a better reason than magic"?, well well look who goes to the dark side lol, here lets make my idea "crystal multi-weapon" dropped by the crystal giant, that make it better? and if not you prove my point that you will defend almost all of what your precious jagex makes wholly, i come up with one idea and you spend what 30 minutes, an hour trashing it? why? because i didnt bother to think it through down to the simple math and measurements, thats how i use my imagination, yes for some things i think up i make it extremely down to earth, but then people with real imagination can believe in things that couldnt happen (even tho this would work in seperate weapons :roll: ), think outside your small industrialized box.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Does JAGeX claim that the crystal bow is rigid enough to be used as a sword? I don't think so. It's a bow, not some poorly thought-out "multi-weapon".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for JAGeX itself, this wouldn't be the first time I've said that JAGeX has a huge problem with equipment designs.

[brando13a]

i do think out ALL of my ideas, this would work, it has minor flaws, use your imagination, and leave my thread if all your going to do is trash my idea,ive put up with you long enough.

[bladeofgod]

First i like to say i like this idea and i am willing to help you idea so here goes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

geesh why didnt any of you so called weapon experts put in a pic of the famous Double Cross Katana. This is a modern version of it and as you can see it is clearly both a staff and 2 blades.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The actual size of this fine piece of weaponary is 42", both blade are 19" so as you can see this idea isnt as bad as you noobs thought. Except for the bow thing which can be simply put out of the world by saying this is a fanatasy game and not a simulation..... though i think a better idea would be this......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If any of you had some understanding of weaponry throughout the world you would know that many tribes used a stick to throw a spear.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

some info about this

 

 

 

The Throw Stick

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The throw stick does appear to have been used to some extent during Egypt's predynastic period as a weapon, but it seems to have not been very effective for this purpose. Yet, because of their simplicity, skilled infantry continued to use this weapon at least with some regularity through the end of the New Kingdom. It was used extensively for hunting fowl through much of Egypt's dynastic period.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For all you peeps that dont know what it looks like:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So if you have a little fantasy you can easly combine these 3 things and Wallaaaahhh you have the idea our poster sort of had in mind. Now for all you people who cant really think, this would sort out the problem with useless javalins ! Since now you can fire your javalins with your Throwing stick that is combined in your (katana, staff,throwing stick)weapon. This would be a MASTER weapon which pulls of the plan you guys had in mind but without any knowledge of weaponry couldnt think off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So the way this weapon would work as as following.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Instead of selecting attack strenght or defence you would be selecting these styles you would be selecting: Mage, Ranged or Melee. I know this would probly not work with the animations but this would be the best solutions but i dont think jagex can pull this off. Otherwise you would need to diss equip this item and slect it somehow in the inventory. Now if you would to choose staff you would be equiping a staff just like any. If you where to choose Melee you would equip double blades(wheter this be katanas or anything else since all you noobs just like to look smart and say the idea is lame). If you where to use Ranged you would also need to equip javalins such as rune javalins. Obviously the attack damedge and range would improve considerebly as the info says. This is logicall as the Throwing sticks functions act as an extention of your arm thus increasing the lengt of it which conducts in an increase of speed which leads to more range and power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The idea of this weapon would only be limited to the RS2 engine as i just proved it is POSSIBLE and fairly eassy. Not only did i proved it to be possible i also proved that javalins would be usefull, so that would be another awesome addition to ranged skill which is needed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont have a problem if you post this on other forums but i would like to get credit for it 8)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would like any comments on this because obviously my idea isnt flawless but the main point of it has no flaws.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dont flame me for grammer i am dutch and i try the best i can do in the time i have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Greetz,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blade

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ps. all you haters are just noobs who flame peoples ideas instead of trying to perfect the idea someone else came up with ! Everyone can flame someone else the art is to HELP people instead of FLAMING them !

[brando13a]

FINALLY!!!!!!!!! someone with an IQ above that of a monkey!!!! bladeofgod you rock, your proposal of the throwing stick is sweet ( i was something similar on the magic school bus :lol: ) and yes a use for javs *bright light* where i smacked together a random idea you've put in a backbone and some meat, now its just sweet, can i add your post to my post on the 1st page, BIG credit to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and to all you flamers, the IQ joke was toward you, not the other supporters.

[bladeofgod]

Yea no problem 8)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just happy you like the idea.More people should think about some cool ideas since everyone of them has a solid core but just needs some more thinking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now just lets hope jagex is gonna look at it :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peace,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blade