SportsGuy Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I fought Bork and the Jade Vine for the first time in a little while and noticed that since I was on curses, I had to use them in the fights. Reflecting damage doesn't work. It seems that the curses do protect, but they do not reflect damage as you get the message "You are unable to reflect damage back to this creature." I usually flash curses between protect melee and magic at Bork, but either the timing was changed on it or the protect magic prayer doesn't work at all on the Elite Dagon'hai Mage. [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4ylan Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I think they changed the timing when you switch prayers. I used to pray right before Jad hit me, and it worked just fine. Now you need to pray like 3 seconds in advance. ~~~The Harpy List~~~Harpy Facts~~~It's Super Effective~~~The Beginning~~~Harpy Therapy Center~~~Alg~~~Jedi Harpy~~~Rohirrim~~~Attenuation~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy Posted February 13, 2010 Author Share Posted February 13, 2010 I think they changed the timing when you switch prayers. I used to pray right before Jad hit me, and it worked just fine. Now you need to pray like 3 seconds in advance. Hmmm...so it might just be that you can't reflect damage to some monsters...of which the special slayer ones are included. [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall337 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 They didn't change the timing of prayers activating. You were just too slow. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy Posted February 13, 2010 Author Share Posted February 13, 2010 They didn't change the timing of prayers activating. You were just too slow. I think many people have stated that the prayer timing changed (see many MANY posts on fighting Jad). [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 You cannot protect the mage's attack. I tried to kill Bork once just praying mage the entire time. That noob still damaged me :( ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 They didn't change the timing of prayers activating. You were just too slow. When I did fight caves with curses: If I turned on the curse while the attack was in mid-air (meaning, the beast launched it, but it hadn't "hit" me yet), sometimes I'd get hit, and then sometimes with the 360, I'd get hit the next attack too, and then the curse would take effect.When I did fight caves with prayer: I would do the exact same as above, only I wouldn't get hit. From my experience, the curses DO take longer to come into effect. ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 So curses do not deflect damage against Bork AND Jade Vine? ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share Posted February 21, 2010 Correct...the error message appears saying damage is not reflected. [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Nicci Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Same thing happens with Vyrewatch and Rings of Recoil, damage unable to be reflected back.. I don't think it's a glitch or a bug, but rather it's meant to be that way. fuer grissa ost drauka "Once committed to fight, cut. Everything else is secondary, cut. That is your duty, your purpose, your hunger. There is no rule more important, no committment that overrides that one. Cut. Cut from the void, not from bewilderment. Cut the enemy as quickly and directly as possible. Cut with certainty. Cut decisively, resolutely. Cut into his strength. Flow through the gaps in his guard. Cut him. Cut him down utterly. Don't allow him a breath. Cut him without mercy to the depths of his spirit. It is the balance of life: death. It is the dance with death." "Dance with me, Death." Bringer of death. "I am ready." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 Same thing happens with Vyrewatch and Rings of Recoil, damage unable to be reflected back.. I don't think it's a glitch or a bug, but rather it's meant to be that way. I may have missed it...where did we say it was a glitch or a bug? [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Same thing happens with Vyrewatch and Rings of Recoil, damage unable to be reflected back.. I don't think it's a glitch or a bug, but rather it's meant to be that way. I may have missed it...where did we say it was a glitch or a bug?He's referring to the Vyrewatch, not Bork / Jade Vine. Popoto.~<3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Nicci Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Hmm, perhaps I misread some of the posts, thought people were saying it was a bug. >.< My mistake, then. Either way, that doesn't change the fact that Vyrewatch are also affected by this inability to reflect damage. Also, 'she', not 'he'. ^.^ fuer grissa ost drauka "Once committed to fight, cut. Everything else is secondary, cut. That is your duty, your purpose, your hunger. There is no rule more important, no committment that overrides that one. Cut. Cut from the void, not from bewilderment. Cut the enemy as quickly and directly as possible. Cut with certainty. Cut decisively, resolutely. Cut into his strength. Flow through the gaps in his guard. Cut him. Cut him down utterly. Don't allow him a breath. Cut him without mercy to the depths of his spirit. It is the balance of life: death. It is the dance with death." "Dance with me, Death." Bringer of death. "I am ready." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Ok so I've been killing our friend Bork for a while on Curses and here's what I've noticed. You CAN reflect damage back onto Bork, but not always. Sometimes I do manage to, and other times I can't and I get the error message you posted. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 Ok so I've been killing our friend Bork for a while on Curses and here's what I've noticed. You CAN reflect damage back onto Bork, but not always. Sometimes I do manage to, and other times I can't and I get the error message you posted. If the message states you can't reflect damage to the creature...if the message is only referring to the mage, then that's possible, but if it doesn't reflect sometimes, that's only because it's a miss. [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Ok so I've been killing our friend Bork for a while on Curses and here's what I've noticed. You CAN reflect damage back onto Bork, but not always. Sometimes I do manage to, and other times I can't and I get the error message you posted. If the message states you can't reflect damage to the creature...if the message is only referring to the mage, then that's possible, but if it doesn't reflect sometimes, that's only because it's a miss. I was praying melee. Can't be the mage. What I mean is, sometimes I DO reflect damage back. I know this because there are two splats on Bork at one time, and it's also synchronized with the "arm sweep" animation of the deflect curse. Other times, however, I fail to reflect damage and get the message you stated. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 That's strange and forgive me, but it doesn't make much sense. I think multiple confirmations and/or video of it would be good. Why it would state you could not reflect damage to the monster, then allow you to do so...I don't understand that. Perhaps that's a bug. [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Perhaps you can only sometimes reflect damage back, and whenever you can't, you get that message. It's like classic woodcutting. You can't always get a log, and when you fail because you slipped, you get that message. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 I would have thought they'd word the message differently if that were the case, but it's possible. [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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