Extremes

[Ezkaton]

Extremes...... Extremes..... hmm, to get or not to get which is the question really.

 

After reading what Aeil said about extremes in DemonicSushi's topic I'm back considering getting them again <.< It's really annoying me because I'll go through phases where I'm all "oh they're pointless" but then someone will say something and I'll be all "emg I wants". Anyways, are they REALLY worth it? And I mean REAAAAAAALY worth it. Yes? No? Maybe?

 

And I currently have a DFS in my bank and another ~35m in cash and assets that I can afford to sell totalling I'd say what? 60-70M? Is this enough to get me to whatever level I need for things like extremes? Or the level I need to greenmans ale them?

 

Thanks.

[Bladewing]

Extremes are very good. A DFS is not.

 

If you don't want to spend money, clean herbs. It can get to about 100k xp/hour with profits. I don't think you can get to 88 on 70m without cleaning, though.

[Aiel]

I'll post this here too just so people dont spend awhile looking for said post:

 

 

 

For this scenario it is being assumed you have average slayer gear for your level, and it is being assumed you hit your max hit every time (max hit and average hit are comparable), the effects of super antifire and extreme attacks are also being ignored. It is also being assumed that you are constantly attacking something. As you said you dont use Kuradal, the effects of the Ferocious ring will be ignored.

 

Given:

A whip, dragon claws and a dragon dagger all hit once every ~2.4 seconds, which is equal to 125 hits every 5 minutes

Your max hit with a whip is 352 with super strengths

Your max hit with dragon claws and super strengths is 290-145-82-72=589.

Your max hit with a whip and extreme strengths is 371.

Your max hit with a DDS and extreme strengths is 324x2.

 

Therefore per special bar with super strengths+dragon claws, you deal a max of 43296(whip)+1168(claws)=44474 per special bar.

 

Per special bar with extreme strengths+dragon dagger, you deal a max of 44891(whip)+2592(dagger)=47483 per special bar.

 

even without the accuracy boost, and sped up dragons tasks, you deal a maximum of 3009 more damage per special bar with extremes :thumbup:

 

 

 

based off of SoSolidClaws stats and dboots+glory+b gloves+whip/dds+rune defender/claws+slayer helm, no other strength bonuses.

 

OT: I believe it costs about 70m from 72 making super attacks, but there's cheaper methods. Use this Wiki page or Grimy's Herblore to calculate GP/XP and speed.

[Ezkaton]

Extremes are very good. A DFS is not.

 

If you don't want to spend money, clean herbs. It can get to about 100k xp/hour with profits. I don't think you can get to 88 on 70m without cleaning, though.

 

I was always thinking about doing this: however everyone is always "neeeeer, watch the GE, WATCH THE GE D: IT COULD IMPLODE ANY SECOND AND YOU COULD LOSE GAZILLIONS?!?!?!?!" And I've been all "ooooooh k. wont do it then as I cba watching it". Does it ever alter that drastically?

[TheAncient]

Extremes are very good. A DFS is not.

 

If you don't want to spend money, clean herbs. It can get to about 100k xp/hour with profits. I don't think you can get to 88 on 70m without cleaning, though.

 

Again, use weapon poison ++.

[anonymouse_]

You should max out before getting them...feels like a waste to be using them with stats in the 80s since the difference between supers and extremes is much smaller

[Bladewing]

Extremes are very good. A DFS is not.

 

If you don't want to spend money, clean herbs. It can get to about 100k xp/hour with profits. I don't think you can get to 88 on 70m without cleaning, though.

 

Again, use weapon poison ++.

I think I provided sufficient evidence earlier that weapon poison ++ is not worth using as a primary method of training... however I think I'll add some more:

 

To get from 82 (the level for weapon poison ++) to 89 (extreme attack and strength, defence with greenmans), one needs 2,421,208 xp.

 

Weapon Poison ++

12,744 potions

106 hours to get the nightshade

10 hours to make the potions

TOTAL: 46m profit, 116 hours

 

Cleaning Dwarf Weeds

175,450 dwarf weeds

25 hours to clean the herbs

TOTAL: 35m profit, 25 hours

 

Super Energy then Recover Special

4,514 Super Energy

9,455 Recover Special

6.8 hours to make the potions

TOTAL: 71.3m loss, 6.8 hours

 

In order from slowest to fastest:

 

Weapon Poison ++: +46m, 116 hours

Cleaning Dwarf Weeds: +35m, 25 hours

Super Energy/Recover Special: -71.3m, 6.8 hours

 

To justify cleaning dwarf weeds over weapon poison, you need to be able to make 120.8k gold per hour.

To justify making super energy/recover special over cleaning dwarf weeds, you need to be able to make 1.07m per hour

To justify making super energy/recover special over cleaning dwarf weeds, you need to be able to make 5.8m per hour.

 

There's absolutely no reason to make weapon poison. sseli hardly has a clue what he/she is talking about.

[Aiel]

Extremes are very good. A DFS is not.

 

If you don't want to spend money, clean herbs. It can get to about 100k xp/hour with profits. I don't think you can get to 88 on 70m without cleaning, though.

 

Again, use weapon poison ++.

I think I provided sufficient evidence earlier that weapon poison ++ is not worth using as a primary method of training... however I think I'll add some more:

 

To get from 82 (the level for weapon poison ++) to 89 (extreme attack and strength, defence with greenmans), one needs 2,421,208 xp.

 

Weapon Poison ++

12,744 potions

106 hours to get the nightshade

10 hours to make the potions

TOTAL: 46m profit, 116 hours

 

Cleaning Dwarf Weeds

175,450 dwarf weeds

25 hours to clean the herbs

TOTAL: 35m profit, 25 hours

 

Super Energy then Recover Special

4,514 Super Energy

9,455 Recover Special

6.8 hours to make the potions

TOTAL: 71.3m loss, 6.8 hours

 

In order from slowest to fastest:

 

Weapon Poison ++: +46m, 116 hours

Cleaning Dwarf Weeds: +35m, 25 hours

Super Energy/Recover Special: -71.3m, 6.8 hours

 

To justify cleaning dwarf weeds over weapon poison, you need to be able to make 120.8k gold per hour.

To justify making super energy/recover special over cleaning dwarf weeds, you need to be able to make 1.07m per hour

To justify making super energy/recover special over cleaning dwarf weeds, you need to be able to make 5.8m per hour.

 

There's absolutely no reason to make weapon poison. sseli hardly has a clue what he/she is talking about.

you didnt factor in AFK-ability and of thoughs options super energy/spec restore is by farrr the best. You could buy the herbs and wait though as I see clean-x coming soon.

[Bladewing]

you didnt factor in AFK-ability and of thoughs options super energy/spec restore is by farrr the best. You could buy the herbs and wait though as I see clean-x coming soon.

Cleaning Dwarf weeds is the best for most. It's actually not that bad once you get used to mousekeys.

 

Clean-x would make all the current benefits of cleaning herbs disappear. The only reason you can sometimes make 2m+/hour plus 100k herb xp is because people are too lazy to figure out how to clean them quickly.

 

Considering it only takes an income of 1m/hour to justify super energy/recover special over nightshades (which by the way is unfathomably easy to do), there's still NO reason to do nightshades, since it is more afk than nightshades.

[bedman]

you didnt factor in AFK-ability and of thoughs options super energy/spec restore is by farrr the best. You could buy the herbs and wait though as I see clean-x coming soon.

Cleaning Dwarf weeds is the best for most. It's actually not that bad once you get used to mousekeys.

 

Clean-x would make all the current benefits of cleaning herbs disappear. The only reason you can sometimes make 2m+/hour plus 100k herb xp is because people are too lazy to figure out how to clean them quickly.

 

Considering it only takes an income of 1m/hour to justify super energy/recover special over nightshades (which by the way is unfathomably easy to do), there's still NO reason to do nightshades, since it is more afk than nightshades.

But you can not only AFK while doing nightshades, you can also do other stuff like alching and such. I do agree though that if he wants the lvls anytime soon he should clean herbs, or throw some millions and do super energy and spec restore. I actually use my spec restores pretty often so it wouldn't be that big of a waste.