Ok so I am carrying on with the pictures.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thouhgt I'sd better post before shading for futrue ones as I said in previous post

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And this time I swear I will not deny all the critsisms (or do my best not to)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So Sonnet the fire mage final version:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And Chang the ice mage line work [i do know staff has no top on now, but didn't before scan and its ALOT of hassle for me to scan] (thought I'd get problems fixed early on):

 

 

 

the 2nd one is good, but needs some added texture and is that suppose to be like a one peice of clothing or like shirt and pants cause its all connected. might look better if u like stick a belt in or sumthing.

The face. Oh gods, the face. I'm not sure if that's his cheekbone or his ear, but either way, it's in the wrong place. He still has no chin. His nose leaves a lot to be desired, namely a third dimension.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Arm proportions are skewed, and the posture looks damn uncomfortable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And pardon me, but are those his pectoral and abdomenal muscles showing through his robes? If those, why not any other muscles? Why are they showing through the robe in the first place?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't actually see all that much improvement in your technique here.

I know the face needs work, faces aren't exactly my best part for drawing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as for the muscles showing throuhg robes the robes are tight due to them being not baggy anyway and the wind pulling them across him. I know I need to do further muscles on his arm for example and around his right leg to make it work right, but as I stated this is a very early work and is likely to change ALOT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Arms I can see your point but so can't be bothered to alter them and finally for the pose it is an akward pose but he is leaning into the wind to keep balance, which does create an akward pose.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That so sounds like I am denying all the critisms again, but I don;t mean to its juts in this case I think most of your points exlcuding the face and arms have an explaination for the context of the drawing

Can you ever be bothered to update your work? You always say this "Oh it's good for now, I can't be bothered to update it." How are you ever going to get better if we never see an update after we give you CC? Are you afraid of actually becoming good at something? Mate, it comes down to it, if you want to excel at all, you're gonna have to take the time to make the changes. Even if it takes you a week to make them all, just do a bit here, and a bit there. But you'll never get better unless we can CC your updated work.

her face looks like Uma Thurman *shivers*

 

 

 

its rather manly tho..

no offence but it may have escaped your attention but I tried to or did do every single c/c on my first picture other than 1 whihc really would of been impossible (nearly) due to the number of things near it and the double layered shading over it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And unless I am mistaken there is only 1 I have said I am not going to do on this 1?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

there were others said yes, but other than the arms I feel for the context of the picture they are all perfectly correct.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not reluctant to do c/c's only some areas whihc annoy me to get dun i am reluctant to redo and as for your comment on 'excelling' not that it is any of your buisness but I am well of track for a high B grade GCSE in Art, so I don't really think it is too much more work to do for that area (considering all places I lost marks for first 2 projects was in the written work)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but that is getting into childishness so I shall leave it

GCSE, I find that hard to believe. Your work is very substandard. And you've used the excuse more than once, I'm just pointing out if you want to excel and get better update your work. Stop making excuses because of "double layer shading," or to many things around it. Need be redo the whole thing, excuses are only used in art by those who have a lack of creativity and no ambition to do better, and I know you're not one of those people. Stop making excuses, just do it.

GCSE, I find that hard to believe. Your work is very substandard. And you've used the excuse more than once, I'm just pointing out if you want to excel and get better update your work. Stop making excuses because of "double layer shading," or to many things around it. Need be redo the whole thing, excuses are only used in art by those who have a lack of creativity and no ambition to do better, and I know you're not one of those people. Stop making excuses, just do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well belive it. I am into my 2nd year of gcse art course, if you want proof I could scan my predicted grades sheet that clearly shows a grade for art as I am doing it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And they not excuses they are valid reasons, I am happy to update to some extenet but in the end some bits are juts too darned complex for me to bother redoing, i muhc prefer to work it into the final result where i go wrong in slight ways, but do take on board and use 90% of the critisms

You haven't prooved you've used the crit's yet, and those are not valid reasons. Any real artist or striving artist would take the time to redo those bits or redo the whole piece. Trust me I'm not the only that thinks this.

the hand on the right looks pretty good, so does the book, thats about it, maybe you should use some manga tutorials?

what fun is there in conforming to every last little sterotype?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do things my way

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and why would I look at tutorials about that drawing type?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am not following any drawing type I am just drawing my characters in my style that has evolved over the years from doing different things

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and as for proof of following crits if you look at the first picture her feet are bigger and more correctly shaped, her left hand is larger, her breast are around 10 times smaller and her eye has the pupil more degfined (even if scanner did nearly lose it again) whihc I belive were all crtis of the original of that one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for this second one i have done little to anything to it yet as I not been in mood to draw since I did the basic outlining off it

To broaden your talents? if you dont try new things then youll never really improve, things will just stay the same. im not saying change your whole drawing style, if you try some tutorials some things may be of use down the road, no matter what style of art you do.

Far enouhg but I dislike all thoose cartoon stlyes to be perfectly honest and have very much recently moved away from such cartoony styles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know mine is still essentiall a cartoon, but i prefer the more realistc cartoon style

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and omg i am getting so annoyed with all these xmas gifts scattered around my desk!

http://www.saveloomis.org/headhands/headhands.htm

 

 

 

tadaa